Tish Harrison Warren: When Weariness Drains Your Soul, Don't Escape—Go Deeper
What Is Spiritual Weariness and How Can We Find Renewal?
In this episode of The Good Faith Podcast, Curtis Chang chats with Tish Harrison Warren—Anglican priest, former New York Times columnist, and author of What Grows in Weary Lands—about burnout, spiritual weariness, and the exhaustion that escapism and rest alone cannot fix. Tish explains how polarization, digital distraction, consumerism, and isolation can leave us tempted to "flame out" or "numb out." Instead, she invites listeners to "go deeper" through prayer, silence, embodied community, Sabbath, and the difficult but meaningful commitments that lead to lasting renewal.
00:36 - Introduction to World Weariness
02:43 - Tish Describes the Draining Experience of Public Faith
06:04 - What Are the Cultural Factors of Collective Burnout?
13:01 - Dysfunctional Responses: Reinvention and Escape
15:01 - Flame Out, Numb Out, or Go Deep
20:51 - Are There Practical Steps to Go Deep?
23:29 - The Practice of "Staying in Your Cell"
26:40 - The Tough Sell of Going Deeper
32:07 - The "Dark Night of the Soul" as a Growth Stage
36:11 - Learning from Historic Church Practices
38:04 - What Do Healthy Rhythms of Engagement and Withdrawal Look Like?
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