The Association of Old Crows (AOC) wants to make our podcast the best it can be. To help us succeed, we'd like to hear your thoughts. Please take just a few minutes to complete our 2025 listener survey because your opinion is very important to us. In this episode of From the Crows’ Nest , host Ken Miller is joined by a panel of two Army colonels to unpack how the Army has made strategic investments into growing its EW capabilities. Col. John Hosey, Chief of Cyber and Commandant of Army Cyber School, tells Ken that the Army began producing soldiers with cyber training in 2008 – very new in the military world. He says one of their points of focus now is to improve the ability of the Army to reprogram their kit to change their tactics, techniques and procedures (TTPs) as threats evolve. Col. Leslie Gorman explains to Ken that her role as the Army Capability manager for EW is to help the Army, as a retired general officer told her last year, “own the EMS like [the Army] owned the night in the 1980s.” Col. Gorman says their push now is to set the conditions so advanced machine learning and algorithmic-based analytics can set the stage for the future of the Army’s EW efforts. To learn more about today’s topics or to stay updated on EMSO and EW developments, visit our homepage . We also invite you to share your thoughts, questions, or suggestions for future episodes by emailing host Ken Miller at
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