Host Ken Miller welcomes Scott "Sherm" Oliver, AOC Board Member and expert on Electromagnetic Spectrum Operations (EMSO), for a conversation during a busy week of meetings on the Hill. Together, they discuss AOC’s ongoing advocacy for the Congressional Electronic Warfare Working Group, share impressions from their meetings with lawmakers, and reflect on the growing recognition of EMSO’s importance. They discuss the need for strong leadership and education within both Congress and the Department of War, the urgency of taking bold action to maintain US advantage in the spectrum, and the surprising role that Hollywood and storytelling can play in shaping public understanding. Considering today’s global challenges, including competition with China, the episode provides an inside look at how awareness and advocacy are driving progress in EMSO. We invite you to share your thoughts, questions, or suggestions for future episodes by emailing host Ken Miller at
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