12/04: Michigan State was expected by almost everyone to be the best team in college basketball. No: that's Louisville

Your hump day edition of the pod has Gary Parrish and Matt Norlander opening on Michigan State getting de-pantsed by Duke. The convo opens on avoiding groupthink and assessing MSU's season now, then the guys get to Vernon Care Jr. (12:00), the Duke freshman who's been the second-best first-year player in the country this season. As for Louisville (16:30), well, Cards fans are going to love this segment. Indiana (27:30), we see you, too. The Hoosiers haven't left home yet, but an 8-0 start is worth spending some words on. The pod wraps on a serious topic: Georgetown (33:40). Two players have transferred, but three players have been accused of sexual violence, sexual harassment and burglary. Norlander provides some reporting and details; Parrish provides some questions that deserve answers, but answers Georgetown is yet to offer.