Phantom CEO: The Next Chapter For Phantom | Brandon Millman & Donnie Dinch

This week Brandon Millman & Donnie Dinch join the show to discuss the past, present & future of Phantom. We deep dive into why did Brandon originally build Phantom, recent M&A activity, building perps, how does Phantom generate revenue, will Phantom IPO & more. Enjoy! -- Follow Brandon: https://x.com/BChillman Follow Donnie: https://x.com/donnie Follow Jason: https://x.com/JasonYanowitz Follow Empire: https://twitter.com/theempirepod -- Join the Empire Telegram: https://t.me/+CaCYvTOB4Eg1OWJh -- Zcash is encrypted Bitcoin. Your digital bill of rights securing your freedom for the 21st century. Buy, store and spend ZEC privately using Zashi Wallet download today: https://electriccoin.co/zashi/ -- Katana is a DeFi-first chain built for deep liquidity and high yield. No empty emissions, just real yield and sequencer fees routed back to DeFi users. Pre-deposit now: Earn high APRs with Turtle Club [https://app.turtle.club/campaigns/katana] or spin the wheel with Katana Krates [https://app.katana.network/krates] -- (00:00) Intro (04:08) Why Did Brandon Start Phantom? (12:05) Building For Crypto Users vs Normies (20:57) Ads (Zcash, Katana) (22:11) Launching Phantom CASH (27:26) How To Scale As a Startup (35:42) Launching Perps (47:12) Ads (Zcash, Katana) (48:26) How Does Phantom Generate Revenue? (53:16) The Next Chapter of Phantom (56:24) Phantom's Recent M&A (01:02:16) Ads (mantle) (01:03:15) Will Phantom Launch a Chain? (01:11:25) Prediction Markets (01:15:31) Will Phantom IPO? (01:21:01) Phantom Connect -- Disclaimer: Nothing said on Empire is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Santiago, Jason, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.