What does it take to be creative in ministry? - Originally Released July 10th 2025 Welcome to the Pastors of Payne podcast, hosted by Fr. Brian O'Brien and Fr. Kerry Wakulich - two Oklahoma priests talking about the joys of the priesthood, the Diocese of Tulsa, and the evangelization of the world. Find the Pastors of Payne Full Episode Catalog on: Spotify | PodBean | Soundcloud
