In this episode, Ciaran and James welcome their first guest from the SANS Institute, Frank Kim, to share insights on bridging the gap between cybersecurity and business leadership. Frank unpacks why cybersecurity is often overlooked by business leaders and discusses effective strategies to elevate its importance in boardrooms and beyond. Highlights: [4:30] Cyber on the World Stage [12:00] Dispelling FUD and Finding What Resonates Links: Crowdstrike Outages Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt (FUD) Contact: Have questions or comments? Email us at
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