Accelerating cloud adoption to drive innovation across domains like space, identity, and naval systems presents unique challenges. Success depends on aligning organizational culture, governance, financial models, and regulatory frameworks to enable collaboration, scalability, and software-defined capabilities. This week, Dave, Esmee, and Rob speak with Danny Polaine , Chief Information Officer at Thales, about the strategic shift to cloud technologies in a high-security sector like defense and the unique challenges that come with it. TLDR : 00:52 – Introduction to Danny Polaine 03:35 – Rob is confused about the AI privacy dilemma 07:40 – Exploring tech in high-security sectors with Danny 35:34 – The biggest challenge isn’t tech, it’s people adapting to new ways of working 44:55 – Reflections on the CIO role and a fun story about singing waiters at a wedding Guest Danny Polaine: https://www.linkedin.com/in/danny-polaine-5713454/?originalSubdomain=uk Hosts Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/ Rob Kernahan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kernahan/ Esmee van de Giessen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/esmeevandegiessen/ Production Marcel van der Burg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-vd-burg/ Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/ Sound Ben Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-corbett-3b6a11135/ Louis Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-corbett-087250264/ ' Cloud Realities' is an original podcast from Capgemini