Why Gene Smith is leaving Ohio State football with one final gift on his way to retirement

As Gene Smith enters his final days as Ohio State's athletic director, Stephen Means and Nathan Baird decided to sit down with him for an hour-long conversation. On this episode of Buckeye Talk, the two recap the enlightening conversation. They cover everything from Smith's background, his decisions as athletic director and how he's setting up OSU's athletic department for the future. Plus a look at how Smith views Ryan Day's first five years as the Buckeyes' head coach and why they went 'all-in' on the 2024 season. Thanks for listening to Buckeye Talk.