#104: This Is Why People Come To Australia

Rowan, a South African who moved to Australia in search of a better life, joins us on the couches. We get into the real story behind immigration: the visas, the cost, the setbacks, the uncertainty, and what it takes to back yourself and start again in a new country.

It’s a conversation about risk, failure, gratitude, relationships, and the lessons Rowan has learnt through a very different life path to most. We also unpack the contrast between South Africa and Australia, and why migrants often have a perspective that reminds us not to take this country for granted.