You Have Been Lied To! The Democratic and Republican Base are Equally Racist
Episode 44 min 45s

You Have Been Lied To! The Democratic and Republican Base are Equally Racist

Malcolm argues conservatives have been falsely portrayed as more racist than liberals. He analyzes poll data showing white Democrats were more opposed to a black president and living in mixed neighborhoods than Republicans until recently. Malcolm argues the stereotype comes from progressive elites being disconnected from their base and extremist views getting amplified online. He makes the case that real racism today comes more from progressives self-segregating and conservatives actually having more diverse friend groups. Overall he argues both parties have racist factions, so neither should claim moral superiority.

Malcolm: [00:00:00] the guy who wrote Rich Men , north of Richmond, said, we are the melting pot of the world. And that's what makes us strong, our diversity. And we need to learn to harness that and appreciate it . And progressives was like, Oh, now he's going to get beaten up by all the conservatives because they hate that talk. And it hasn't really happened. where did this idea that there's like a conservative racist come from, .

Malcolm: I am going to send Simone a poll. By 538. So they did a series of polls on this. Okay. And you grew up in the democratic movement. So you grew up being inundated with this lie that the conservatives are the racist party in this country.

Malcolm: Oh, totally. So let's see, you see the actual statistics here. Just sent you the

Simone: first one. Whites who say they would not vote for a black president.

Malcolm: Democrats were higher at this until Obama became president.

Simone: Yeah. Between 15 and 7%. Of white Democrats said that they would not vote for a black president, whereas by comparison, only 5% of [00:01:00] white Republicans reported that they would not vote for a black president.

Malcolm: So, this isn't like hidden racism. A lot of the time when conservatives say Democrats are racist, they mean like affirmative action is a fundamentally racist policy in many ways. Right. But there's sort of , twisting things around a bit. I mean, just like actually blatantly normally in the normalist sense of the term, the democratic base is about as.

Malcolm: Racist in the most traditional sense as the Republican base. There was never this grand flip.

Malcolm: but hold on, I'm going to show you more stats here.

Malcolm: So now I'm gonna get to the spicy take here Okay. When I look at the conservative intellectual sphere, where do I see the actual like loud racists, right? . I call them in like the Nick Fuentes sphere. I think when you think through the ideology, you realize it's almost so stupid that no one could actually hold it. And it's so incongruous with actual right wing ideology that there is no way that these individuals could [00:02:00] have real large followings within the right wing sphere, which leads me to believe they might be plants either by the CIA or a foreign government.

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Simone: Oh, Malcolm, how long has it been since we've spoken?

Malcolm: It has been too long. There's been this song that went viral in.

Malcolm: First conservative circles and then progressives freaked out about it, which was Rich Men , north of Richmond which started out, which I love very appealing to like progressive audiences. Like the first half of the song is like how hard it is to be a working man in today's society. And then it starts talking about, you know, welfare queens and you know, protecting minors.

Malcolm: And they are, obviously they have a meltdown about this, but what's been very interesting is the followup to this, which liberals are being very. Smug amount, which is the guy who wrote the song, then said, we are the melting pot of the world. And that's what makes us strong, our diversity. And we need to learn to harness that [00:03:00] and appreciate it and not use it as a political tool.

Malcolm: To keep everyone separate from it. And progressives was like, Oh, now he's going to get beaten up by all the conservatives because they hate that talk. And it hasn't really happened. There have been a few, like your typical, like crazy racist who have gotten mad at him. But in general, his base still really likes like.

Malcolm: If you actually hang out with the conservative base, if you hang out with like real conservative voters in this country, you would intuitively know this is what most of them think. And this is really interesting for me because it's, it's, it got me thinking a few questions. One, where did this idea that there's like a conservative racist come from, which, you know, historically the Democrats were the party of the Klan.

Malcolm: , yes, parties, quote unquote, switched at one period, but not exactly. They [00:04:00] switched about as much as they did when Trump was president. And by that, what I mean, you know, when Trump was president, now all of a sudden the right is more protectionist, the right is more anti war, the right, you know, it just, it just, a lot of things switched, but not everything switched.

Malcolm: So how did, how did one party go from being the party of the Klan to then the other one being the racist party? And what I'm going to argue is that never actually happened. Oh, Republicans were never actually the racist party. And we're going to go over a lot of stats here. But also some, some.

Malcolm: Narrative stuff but first, the, the, the first way that this perception has happened that I want to dig into, because I find it very fascinating and it's something that you've definitely seen as well, is we know a lot of the political elite of the conservative party. You know, I've had presidents, there were people who would be president or past presidents.

Malcolm: I've been to house parties that they're hosted and stuff like that. I know the type of people that they're associating with and the vast majority are progressives. And the question is why this is the fun thing, so [00:05:00] Simone, for example, she was managing director of Dialogue, which was a secret society that was originally founded by Peter Thiel and Aron Hoffman, so you know, very conservative founding, you could say, right?

Malcolm: And yet they had to institute an affirmative action, a policy for getting in if you were conservative because so few people of the type of people that they're admitting you know, leaders in, in, you know, fortune 500 companies, major tech companies, stuff like that were like out conservatives.

Malcolm: And this is something you see across the political sphere is that typically the ultra wealthy who live in cities in our society and control a lot of the wealth, there's just not many conservatives than those groups. And so when the politicians are associating with people who they see as their peers, the truth is, is they interact with very few actual conservatives, very few actual people in their base.

Malcolm: And so when they are constructing an image of who their base is. They often rely more on the stereotypes [00:06:00] progressives have of their base than on their actual base. Wow. And an open secret in, in D. C. and Simone, you've had these conversations with people before as well we talk with, , conservatives in D.

Malcolm: C. and they're like, it is an open secret that a lot of the campaign staffers of the major, you know, Senate campaigns and stuff like that presidential campaigns who are in the conservative group are actually just Democrats who are holding their nose. And the reas

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