Why the Breaking of Shame Will Save the Righteous

In this episode, the hosts delve into the concept of shame and its diminished role in modern society. They explore the controversial view that losing shame might be beneficial, especially when considering societal norms relating to the LGBTQ+ community, specifically the trans movement. The discussion touches upon the coercion involved in gender identity and the impact on cultural values. Additionally, the conversation examines the contrast between historical and modern expressions of trans identity and the broader implications of shame and societal motivation. The hosts also reflect on the early Christian approach to martyrdom as a way of life and how it translates to contemporary social behaviors and beliefs.

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Malcolm Collins: Hello, Simone. Today, we are going to be discussing the topic of shame and its role in society as society to a large extent has lost shame like they they broke the role that shame was supposed to play in society.

And I'm going to argue maybe counterintuitive to what a lot of people would expect that. I think that this is a good thing that we've lost shame. Then we've lost shame. What? Okay. Yeah, go on. Okay. So, I mean, if we're talking about losing shame one of the things you'll repeatedly see, and you'll see this especially among the trans community, that they will act and dress in ways that historically you would've been embarrassed to act and dress.

You would've had some shame around this. You would've known I am acting like a buffoon right now. I, I like you, you should. Historically, if [00:01:00] you had walked into like a children's book reading, looking and dressing like this, you would have said

Speaker: Another blaring example, drag queen story time. It's happening in Canada and America where some public schools and libraries invite drag queens, some dress like torn demons to read to young Children, and it's a social deconstructionist agenda.

Speaker 5: They're using Children, little five year olds to accomplish this.

Malcolm Collins: With gay marriage, it was an attempt to not be coerced by society, to live in a way that felt unnatural. Whereas with the trans movement, it's an attempt to coerce society to act in a way that doesn't feel natural.

It's about the directionality of coercion. In this case, people are coerced, coercing other people to do something without their consent. That is to say, you know, Pretend that someone looks like a woman or a man when they don't. , which can be very difficult for some people.

And that's why there's all this mis-gendering. , versus just being allowed to do something with your private life that you'd like to do.

And I think worse [00:02:00] than just being hard for some people that go to get some people's cultural values. They're the huge difference between a government allowing gay people to get married in a government forcing Catholic church is to marry gay people.

The trans we've been as fundamentally fighting to force you to validate them. And I understand. And the desire here. What does anyone want more than to be validated by other people? , even more so if you can force them to validate you for something, that's obviously not true. I mean, what a strong power play. But, and I, and I point out here, like, if it's clear from the way these people dress and look, the old line of, I just want to be seen as a woman. Isn't true. They're not people who are desperate to look and act and, and be seen in public as women, or they would. Dress in a way that looked remotely like a woman.

, they are people who are getting off on forcing people to see them in a way that's obviously not true in forcing [00:03:00] their self perception on to another person. In a way that is. If not sexual

Clearly something adjacent to sexuality because that's not, , any other, , recognizable, emotional set that I can think of where you force another person to say something about you. That is obviously not true. And I can get it. Like if that sort of thing gets you off, what would get you off more than, forcing someone, to get their kid, to say something that they know isn't true. , and in exercising that power over them. And I think you can see the joy in this, in these individuals' faces, when they talk about how they can force parents to get their kids to do stuff like this.

Speaker 5: and parents are waking up and saying no.

Speaker: When asked about parents rights, OJ says

Speaker 6: Well, actually, in Canada, parents rights are limited, so the child has the right to be protected from the parents when the parents behave badly.

Speaker: [00:04:00] Like village resident Dave Davido Carlo support Soji and limiting parental rights.

Speaker 7: The change that we have to see is sometimes the parents.

Malcolm Collins: My culture believes that. If a little girl likes boys toys. That she's just a tomboy. That's a girl who likes boyish things and we hold that in high esteem. If a little boy likes to do things that sometimes little girls like to do, we say whatever we accept them. For the way that they want to act without demanding that they change their gender in relation to that or their gender presentation in relation to that yet the dominant.

. Societal view of gender right now, the one that many school systems and educational programs are attempting to push on my kids.

Aspires to erase this cultural perception of gender. And I think that that is highly.

Colonialist imperialist.

And you could almost say genocidal of my culture.

Speaker 8: And the little, [00:05:00] little girl came home in tears because the teacher had told her since she was playing with some toys in the class that were deemed to be masculine in nature that she was likely a boy in a girl's body.

The mother went to the school the very next day. And instead of having any sort of tolerance or support or understanding, she was actually called names. She was told that she was a homophobe, that she was a bigot.

Malcolm Collins: Like, and there were trans people in the past. And I remember growing up like in trans people would interact with other people.

The iteration of trans back then cared about passing. Like they would have felt embarrassed about not passing.

Simone Collins: Yeah, you might like disappear for a year, maybe go to another country, work on it and then come back. Yes,

Malcolm Collins: this new group actively thrills themselves on not passing.

Simone Collins: Well, I think that's a, it's a different, it's a different group of people.

It's a different group of people with a different drive. I think it's a lot of people that get off on The, [00:06:00] the fact that they know that they have power over people and that they're making people uncomfortable and forcing them to run contrary to their instincts and

Malcolm Collins: Oh, no, no, no, absolutely. This, this one group has taken the, the, the mantle of the other group.

The other group may have been able to, and we'll talk about this later, may have been able to legitimately claim to be part of the LGBT movement or, or like, you know, like gay rights or something like that. This other group is just a fetish. And we used to know that both of these things existed at the same time.

We used to know that there were. Some people who wanted to be a different gender and there were some people who liked doing perverted things in public and making people uncomfortable, especially children. And somehow we made it like a huge problem to point out that the second group was using rights that we were trying to car