What Happens to Africa Long Term? The Pronatalist Perspective

We explore overlooked aspects of Africa's future, including its cultural/genetic diversity, selective pressures, and mindsets. We discuss resilience to woke ideology, potential for conflict, impacts of globalism's decline, and groups embracing technology. Though many regions face collapse, Africa's sheer variety may allow winning cultures to emerge.

Malcolm: [00:00:00] in Africa those conflicts are going to get worse in the short term, but I, where it all hashes out.

Malcolm: A lot of the world's winners, I'd say probably half of the world's winning cultural groups are probably going to come out of Africa. Just due to the sheer diversity of the continent. In literally every context, a thing can be diverse.

Simone: Yeah, I'm excited. Especially because the more people in different cultures.

Simone: In and from Africa we've encountered the more it's oh my gosh, this is this is gonna these are cultures that over time and with more and more technology are going to react in really interesting ways

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Simone: Hello.

Malcolm: Hello, Simone. Today is going to be a fascinating topic. It actually came up because yeah, I was, I had a a friend interviewing me and we were talking about what the future of Africa is going to be and in a pronatalist world, but What's the end goal with Africa?

Malcolm: What ends up happening with Africa? And it also reminded me of a conversation we'd had [00:01:00] with Edward Dutton when he was over at our house. He was asking why is it that so many people in the pro natalist movement are black and specifically African? The two groups that are most disproportionately represented in the pronatalist movement are people from Jewish backgrounds, sometimes now they're secular and people from African backgrounds. And so the question was why?

Malcolm: And I actually I don't feel like I had a really good question for it when he was asking me when he was filming for this documentary thing, but I've been thinking a lot more about it and I think I have a better reason now. So at the time, my intuition was, is it was for the same reason as Jewish people disproportionately, I

Malcolm: think. That's still true. I was just pulling at the wrong threads. So specifically what I had thought that it was intergroup identity, like the idea of being like, I like my people. I have no shame in my people. I want my people to exist in the future. And [00:02:00] that was a big part of it.

Malcolm: However, I actually think now what it is familiarity was a mental framework. Of intergenerational tribalistic thinking where people, where you recognize that different groups are different from you, but you plan to work alongside them. Intergenerationally. , in a non dominant way.

Malcolm: Like it, not in a way where you plan to eventually convert them. And that is a type of thinking that sort of, I guess you could say our entire movement is really heavily based around. And it's something that when you talk with Jewish people, they're immediately familiar with it. Oh yes. I understand the concept of working alongside people who are different from me without eventually trying to convert them and living in a multicultural, environments.

Malcolm: And when you talk to people from Africa, because many of them have really strong tribal identities. They really understand this as well. Oh, yes, of course. I understand the idea of, [00:03:00] my, my people might be different from this group's people, but we would still be able to work together long into the future, but here's where it gets interesting.

Malcolm: What actually ends up happening with Africa as wokeism continues to spread because right now, as wokeism has spread around the world this sort of. We call it the mind virus, right? The super virus. It is a sterilizing a medic set, which is eventually going to destabilize many of these regions, but it requires regions often to have a sufficient amount of wealth to easily spread among them and sufficient amount of like social technology.

Malcolm: And I think to an extent China has been resistant and India has been resistant, like South and East Asia have been resistant to it. But the cultures that they had alternative to it seem to just do very poorly against technology and lead to some of the lowest birth rates in the world.

Malcolm: Even lower than woke populations. Middle East, I think this is something that [00:04:00] people might be surprised about, but it's been uniquely susceptible to wokeism, or not uniquely, but surprisingly susceptible to wokeism. And the reason it's been surprisingly susceptible to wokeism is not because wokeism penetrates the entire depth of the society, but because the society is very hierarchical, and the people at the top of that society, Try to ingratiate themselves or like socially get along with to some extent Western friend groups that are of similar socioeconomic levels and as such begin to adopt some woke ideas that then per permeate down throughout society.

Malcolm: So, a great example of this would be Iran's devastatingly low birth rate which was actually created by a government program which the the imam of Iran was convinced to undertake by like a group of like population counts, like far lefty professors or something who were like hanging out there for a period.[00:05:00]

Malcolm: Of course, they've long since realized it was a big mistake and for the past 10 years they've been trying to get rid of it. And trying to get their fertility rate up to very little effect. But it it shows how susceptible those areas have been. But I think Africa is going to be a completely different game going into the future, both genetically and in terms of its susceptibility to wokeism.

Malcolm: So do you want to talk to this at all, Simone?

Simone: Well, what makes me really interested about this concept is that... The original vision that one just assumes with Africa is that Africa is going to every other developed nation so far, get more wealthy and then become very susceptible to wealth induced fragility collapse and then just see the same kind of decline that we've seen in other areas.

Simone: But then, yeah, the more we've talked about this, the more it seems obvious that no, actually, culture in Africa is really different. It isn't so I think what happens is people really lose their culture, right? In the nations, especially where [00:06:00] they've seen a collapse in fertility.

Simone: And you said that China has been somewhat resistant to this, but I really don't think so. Their birth rate has collapsed and while China is very, but for

Malcolm: different reasons,

Simone: I argue. Well, China, well, but China's very thoughtfully tried to fight back against us. And I think you were alluding to that.

Simone: Like they're trying to make a culture of strong men and family orientation and just generally strong willed people. They've really failed to do so.

Malcolm: But it's hard to talk about the China's biggest weakness and I think why it's failing as hard as it is. It's homogeny. Would you say? It's homogeny. Yeah.

Malcolm: Yeah. Yeah. Whereas in Africa, multiple cultural hypotheses to tackle this. It's just so there are different like ethnic groups within China, but when those ethnic groups begin to get really high fertility rates, the the Uyghurs had a really high fertility rate the government sees it as a problem and w