We Created Demons for Our Children

We discuss how in the secular religious lore and belief system we are constructing for our family, we conceive of "demons" or chaotic forces as being different manifestations of the "Future Police" - the same forces that guide things towards good outcomes. Just as angels can punish, so too can the Future Police act as demons, laying trials, temptations, and hardship intended to test people and peel them from the righteous path. We explore how this connects to concepts like sin, stagnation, change, the great game, and relate it to entities from Warhammer lore.

Malcolm Collins: [00:00:00] I would say that, and this is where we'll get to one of the other demons, one of the easiest paths to temptation, one of the easiest ways a person can fall off the righteous path is to not recognize that as a human, they are wretched and they are flawed

and that, that is okay. All humans sin. But it's critical. Is that you do not glorify the sin.. Sin is a, is a, is a part of life, but there is a huge difference between saying I am engaging in this sin. I recognize it as sin. I recognize it as something I should have some shame for but I also recognize that I am human and thus a sinner.

Right? But if you use it and say, no, actually the sports are a good thing. I am a good person for being good at sports. I am a good person for, in whatever particular aspect of slaneshidom that I engage in. That is where true evil comes from. But true evil can also come from a [00:01:00] human that thinks they can totally avoid sin.

Every group I know of. believes that humans can completely avoid sin, the humans in their group that quote unquote come closest to that are typically the most efficacious individuals in society. Because avoiding sin means avoiding action.

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Simone Collins: When you said that we were going to talk about demons today, I was so sure that you were going to, like, make this fallacious episode about, like, skeletons in our closet or something, you know, like your childhood demons, because so many people online are like, these are two deeply damaged people. You know, they say

Malcolm Collins: that about us.

Do they think that we are

Simone Collins: dealing with our trauma and this is why we want to have children or why were we, I

Malcolm Collins: love this. I mean, you want to talk about a sign of brainwashing or a brainwashed individual it's when somebody disagrees with them or has a different world perspective than their damage, their first reaction.

Is what horrible thing happened to them in [00:02:00] their past that made them see the world differently than me and that what they need to do. And there's actually a class of people who do this. They don't even say like, you know, you should read the research or you should go out there and learn about this topic.

They're like, you need to go to. therapy. Yes. Then you will think like me.

Simone Collins: Exactly. It's like, I think it's a constant trope that people are exposed to in media. Like villains, of course, were raised in terribly abused environments. Like, you know, that, that Dr. Evil bit where he's like, you know, he talks about this like terrible childhood and how he was beaten and all these

Malcolm Collins: things.

Well, I mean, I think that the, you know, if you talk about, we talk about the, the super virus, right? The and the way that it maintains its membership or recruits new members is through using psychologists. And we have talked about this in, in the video, psychology has become a cult. I think this is somebody who originally trained in psychology.

The way that psychology is practiced now is not the way it was practiced. even a decade ago in [00:03:00] terms of what's considered acceptable and what's not. And, and, and, you know, as, as to what you're saying here it makes a lot of sense. If you see this not as being in like one cultural group versus another cultural group, but see it as being in a cult.

Well, yeah, of course a cult would tell you what you need to go to your cult. Cult appointed mind cleaner, they'll, they'll clean your, your brain's dirty and there's these people you can pay to clean it.

They'll wash it for you if, if you will, and then once you have a clean brain, you can have

Simone Collins: clean thoughts.

Oh, I'm rewatching this during editing, I realized the joke may not be clear here. I am making a joke about brainwashing.

Simone Collins: I don't think there's a precedent for that though, like even in the media tropes where like the evil person has gone to therapy and worked on themselves, like they're never really fixed. So it's just kind of this excuse to write someone off permanently. that they're damaged, they're traumatized, and you know, though they should go to therapy and whatnot, no amount

Malcolm Collins: of it will actually.

I mean, I saw so much [00:04:00] of this was Trump you know, when he was elected. Did people say he

Simone Collins: was traumatized in his youth?

Malcolm Collins: Yeah, all of these articles. Oh,

Simone Collins: they did something about his dad, right? That he was.

Yeah,

Malcolm Collins: yeah. How is he traumatized? How is he, you know, they, they just cannot fathom that someone could honestly just disagree with their perception.

Simone Collins: They must be emotionally stunted.

Malcolm Collins: Now, let's be clear. Other, other cultural groups have some similar things to this. Like there are some Oh

Simone Collins: yeah, like maybe you're possessed by a demon,

Malcolm Collins: for example. Yeah, some extreme Christians that like literally think everyone who disagrees with them is possessed by a demon.

So there's that. But, but I, I would say that those are like the most extreme, absolutely wackadoo of Christians. And yet this is a mainstream position among the, the, those indoctrinated into the virus. Actually Scientology do the same thing. It's your thetans, right? Your thetans that are attached to you, which cause you to have negative thoughts and stuff like that.

And you need to go to their. Well, their version of like psychologists, these people who you tell your backstory [00:05:00] to, and then they help you get your thetans off of you. so That you can think clearly because of you. Oh, they even have something like Oh, what's it called?

Simone Collins: But there, I know that also like. They don't even want mothers to scream during childbirth cause they think that might traumatize the child, which is, you know, I guess it goes to show you can make up all these excuses of like, whether or not the person remembers or not, here's why they're messed up.

Like their mother screamed when they were born

Malcolm Collins: or something. Right. So the term that you use, by the way, is clear. Clear.

Simone Collins: Right. And that's why that documentary was called going

Malcolm Collins: clear. Yeah. So once they have cleared your brain, cleaned it. washed it, if you will, of whichever group. No, but it's just a common practice.

And it makes sense that it's a common practice because it's an incredibly effective practice.

Simone Collins: Yeah. Well, and other people I think just say like, well, it's because you haven't accepted Jesus Christ as your savior, or basically you haven't converged to this religion and that's why you're evil or.

Malcolm Collins: