Trump Accidently Revealed Who Killed Epstein
In this episode, Malcolm and Simone delve deep into the complexities and controversies surrounding Jeffrey Epstein's infamous case. They explore the lack of logical investigation, the political maneuvering, and the possible cover-ups. The conversation touches upon the role of intelligence agencies, Trump's shift in stance on releasing Epstein files, and how different powerful forces might have influenced the course of events. They dissect the new pieces of evidence, including inconsistencies in the guard logs, camera footage, and suspicious injuries. The episode aims to shed light on the probable reasons why key information is being withheld by the government, proposing plausible theories involving foreign nations and intelligence operatives.
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Malcolm Collins: Hello Simone. I'm excited to be here with you today. Today we are gonna be talking about a spicy topic, which is Epstein. Oh boy. And the reason we're gonna be talking about Epstein is I have long wondered what actually happened. Because so many people when they talk about the Epstein list or they talk about his death they use it as just a tool to attempt to score political points on their opponents in ways that don't make a lot of sense if you apply logic to them.
And I had seen very little actual investigation trying to understand what actually happened and why, if there is a coverup, is there a coverup? And I think that recently we have received a giant piece of evidence as to what may have happened and who may have been involved that might blow the case open.
Ooh. But what's interesting is a lot of people are completely overlooking this new source of evidence. Yeah. They're just [00:01:00] complaining about it. They're just complaining about the redactions and everything else. Yeah. Well, no, no, no, no. What they miss is they see Trump administration, you know, they're running for office.
You have somebody like JD Vance in 2021, he, he tweeted quote. What possible interest would the US government have in keeping Epstein's client secret? Oh, do, do dot. And then later he said, if you're a journalist and you're not asking questions about this case, you should be ashamed of yourself. What purpose do you even serve?
I'm sure there's a middle class teenager somewhere who could use some harassment. Not right now, but maybe try to do your job once in a while. I mean, then there's a quote that we'll go into of Trump leading up to the election where he was super gung ho on this. And what people are missing is a crucial piece of evidence that has been revealed is that Trump's administration hasn't revealed significant evidence That tells you something.
Okay. It tells you that when you get a full picture of the case. Hmm. Even if you are Trump's [00:02:00] administration, even if you are a Republican administration, I. You believe it isnt in your best interest to cover this case up?
Simone Collins: Hmm. Interesting.
Malcolm Collins: Or the, the official narrative that he un alive himself is actually true.
And I will go into copious evidence that I do not believe that is true, that we will get to. Oh, really?
Simone Collins: Okay. Yeah. And I, Malcolm and I have been talking, by the way, offline about some, I read this really detailed substack post presenting all the evidence as to like, why basically the preponderance of evidence favors that he did indeed die, as people have said, he died in prison as, at least as a government official, said he died in prison with no foul play.
And yet I can't find it. Which also kind of to me suggests that whoever made that post found out something that kind of undid their argument and they took it down. So, yeah,
Malcolm Collins: that, that's my assertion. Well, because I, I did a deep dive on all of the evidence. And [00:03:00] my read, and I can, I can give you guys like the end state answer here and we'll work to it because I don't like leaving people hanging on, on theories.
People are busy. Yeah. My read from the majority of the evidence right now is, and I don't want to call out names, was one of these groups because I don't wanna put my own life at risk. But it was either a wealthy Muslim within Saudi Arabia who the US had strong reason to keep happy, both Republicans and Democrats.
Mm-hmm. And who has a history of doing this sort of thing. Mm-hmm. Or he worked for Mossad and or Jeffrey
Simone Collins: Epstein worked for Mossad.
Malcolm Collins: Jeffrey Epstein was a Mossad agent, and I'm not saying that Mossad necessarily installed him. Actually, it would be almost a little insane if various intelligence agencies didn't go out to him.
Yeah, because if you build a network, so people who don't know how intelligent agencies recruit assets, I should probably just go into this before we go further, because my dad was recruited as an intelligence agency asset. The CIA tried to recruit [00:04:00] him.
Simone Collins: Oh, so basically once you reach a certain level of connection and profile, you're probably gonna be contacted by some groups because
Malcolm Collins: yeah, they're, they're like, oh, you got invited to X event with a bunch of Russian dignitaries.
You know, you're very patriotic. He was a congressman's son. He was, you know, a known like very patriotic individual. And so they'd be like, Hey. Here's something you can do for your country. For, from Jeffrey Epstein's perspective. You know, he was born Jewish so they would've thought that they could have some leverage on him, and he had a lot of powerful people sort of in his debt to some extent which would.
Highly motivate. I, in fact, I would be surprised if, if he wasn't Mossad, that at no point did Mossad contact him. And, and I'd also point out here, I wouldn't say just a Mossad thing. I would also guess that Russian intelligence contacted him at some point. And I bet that the CIA contacted him at some point, he may have been working for various intelligence agencies.
Like if, if, if you build yourself into a position of power by blackmailing lots of famous people, and it's obvious and there is a paper trail [00:05:00] you are very desirable from the perspective of as, as an asset, you the hottest girl in the club. Yeah. The hottest girl in the club, right? Yeah. So what I'm saying here isn't insane.
I'm not saying that they like implanted him and built his career and everything like that. I like this way of
Simone Collins: looking at it though. What you're looking at is where are the incentives aligned? And, and who's going to come out of the woodwork for certain things. You know, like if you. Like put a pile of food in a field.
You know what bugs are gonna come flocking to it, you know? Well, yes. And if it
Malcolm Collins: was either of these groups, it would 100% explain why neither the Democrats or the Republicans want released. Because both the Democrats and the Republicans both want the Saudis and I I Israel to stay our friends. Yeah. Um, And that matters much more.
The, the stupid answer I keep hearing from people is, oh, Trump is on the list. And this answer just shows an inability at rational thought. Because if Trump, like if there was concrete evidence not just Trump on flight records or some picture of Trump, but that tied Trump, [00:06:00] Trump to Jeffrey Epstein in a nefarious context, the Biden administration, 100% would've released it.
Whoever it is. That's a good point that people are attempting to protect, is somebody who cannot be used to undermine either the Democrats or the Republicans. Hmm. If it was a mainstream Democrat. The Trump administration would be releasing it. If they had hardcore stuff on this, it
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