The Virus! (How Wokeism Kills Organizations)

A discussion about how certain worldviews and ideologies can spread rapidly in today's interconnected world, and how this can lead to polarization when opposing viewpoints clash. We reflect on the importance of building connections and understanding across divides.

Malcolm Collins: [00:00:00] the virus is a predominantly white thing. It descends from European cultural groups. It is a form, a new form, you could call it Neo European imperialism.

It's goal is to... Target and erase the cultures of not just because it's gotten bad at erasing the cultural background of the people who live near it, you know, they've begun to develop immunity. So now because as soon as somebody is infected with it, it tells them, Oh we want you to be as happy as possible all the time.

Like, do not challenge yourself. Just do whatever that you want to do in the moment, and that will make you happier in the long term, right? And don't allow anyone else to challenge you for doing those things. , but in doing that, it makes people not have kids.

And it causes bigger problems when they say, okay, well now we need to get immigrants into the country because they don't have a resistance to us and we'll just take their children . And well, then these immigrant groups, they begin to get wise to this as well. And they're like, Hey.[00:01:00]

I don't want you to take our kids. And then, people like us, traditional conservatives, we go to the immigrant groups and we're like, Oh, we have a lot in common with you. You don't want our children. We don't want your children. We are both terrified of the same thing. Let us work together. And I think that This is the, the real turning that we are having as a society now.

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Malcolm Collins: Record. I hit record. Oh, great. Perfect. Good. You're not going to forget this time.

Simone Collins: So you're so pretty and smart. Oh, my pretty.

Malcolm Collins: I know you're also smart. No, my

Simone Collins: brain can't handle things because it's so, so female. I don't know how to deal

Malcolm Collins: with that. So one of the things that we often get is people are like, why don't you do More like explicitly pronatalist stuff or explicitly stuff about the virus or explicitly stuff about stuff that are like main talking [00:02:00] points for us when we're on other podcasts.

And the core reason is, is we've actually tried to, like, we've recorded a number of episodes on the topic of the virus and how it works, but they end up like. You know, like a cart following a path that's been read, ridden through a bunch of times and grooves get dug into the path and then the cart just slips into those grooves and it ends up going the same route.

It's gone every time. And that leads to a very boring conversation. Cause it's the exact same talking points I go through whenever I'm on somebody else's show. And I know that you guys have heard all of them before, and so I don't want to bore you with them. And so in talking about the virus this time, we're going to give it another shot.

We're going to do something different. We are going to explore it through the lens of a specific organization to understand how the virus spreads and how to potentially fight the virus, how to recognize the virus and how it works. So when I talk about the virus, I'm talking about the colt, whatever you want to call it, this thing [00:03:00] that is Becoming an increasing and increasing influence in our society.

People want to call it wokeness, but calling it wokeness is wrong. Extends so far beyond just the wokes. It's

Simone Collins: also specifically not actually. In advocacy or in favor of what you would consider to be woke advocacy or social justice. Like it doesn't serve actual social justice outcomes. Anyone who actually cares about these causes is going to find over time that this is doing more harm than good.

So also it is unfair to call it woke because it is inherently not woke. It is inherently hurting the woke platform. And so you actually had a great way of putting this in, in context with like the current conflict in Gaza. Do you want to, I didn't remember. Oh, yeah. So you were saying that like, you know, in the same way that Hamas will set up its headquarters in hospitals to defend itself and like, you know, be in the most defensible position

Malcolm Collins: when it knows that to attack it, you have to attack a [00:04:00] vulnerable group.

Exactly. So it specifically puts itself where, you know, if it gets bombed or something, then they can go, Oh look, they're bombing you in the hospital.

Simone Collins: You clearly hate children and sick people. Yeah. So the,

Malcolm Collins: the, the, this sort of local virus sets itself up within the most vulnerable communities and it uses the agents within those communities.

To perform the most insane and unspeakable of its injustices so that the other side ends up targeting and bombing those communities, basically, and then it can go, Oh, look, gay people, LGBT community. They hate you. Oh, you know, look, minor, you know, BLM community. They hate you. But it's, it's, it's because they are.

intentionally drawing this ire on those communities. It's a strategy that they're using. And they use those communities for protection. So it is a human,

Simone Collins: it is a human, a vulnerable human shield strategy. And it is, it is inherently therefore sickening and disgusting. Yeah. So they're

Malcolm Collins: like, Oh, you're attacking [00:05:00] wokeism.

You must be racist or homophobic or, you know, there'll be to use these words. Where they've set up their headquarters in these vulnerable communities because they like to use those communities as human shields, but this very tactic

Simone Collins: agendas, this very tactic victimizes and hurts the causes that it proposes to support the people that it supposes to proposes to protect.

Malcolm Collins: While we're talking about what's going on in Israel right now. One of the things that we've been seeing increasingly among our social circles, especially among young people is I think a lot of young people, they go into life, even if they have these intuitions that like the system that they're living in is lying to them, that it's controlled by this sort of virus or cult.

And That for now they will just stay under the cover for now they can probably play it politically neutrally. Like why do they need to take sides? And then things happen that just like a baseball bat hitting a cage over and [00:06:00] over again that they're in there like, Oh, like this is worse than I thought.

I didn't know they were this bad. The response that leftist organizations have had to the atrocities committed by Hamas. For a lot of the young gen Z that we know in, in the U S who at least was like, I say open to truth. I won't even say that they were partially right leaning has really been radicalized.

I think one of the things that keeps happening with the left is they do not realize when they are radicalizing these communities because they have created an environment where these communities are afraid to speak freely or let them know. How angry they are getting or how much of their opinion of the left has changed.

But what I can say is opinions are shifting really severely due to the approved set of responses to what's been going on here. And people should buckle the [00:07:00] f**k up for what ends up coming after this. And the left would be like, oh, you must mean like young Jews. No, I mean like young Iranians in the U.

S. Like they are horrified at,