The Three Factions That make Up The New Republican Party

In this thought-provoking discussion, Malcolm and Simone Collins explore the emerging "New Right" or "Silicon Valley Right" coalition within the Republican party. They delve into how this group, which includes tech entrepreneurs and venture capitalists, is reshaping conservative politics and policy positions.

Key topics covered:

* The shift from "GOP Inc." to a new conservative faction

* Trump's alignment with the New Right and distancing from traditional social conservatives

* The evolving stance on issues like abortion and same-sex marriage within the Republican party

* The clash between old guard "Christian socialist" conservatives and the new tech-savvy right

* How demographic changes and generational shifts are influencing conservative politics

* The impact of this realignment on the future of the Republican party

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Malcolm Collins: Hello, Simone, I am excited to be here with you today. Some days I just have like this breakthrough in my perception of reality that changes everything for me in a way. Like I wish people are like, why can't you only record the good, you know, the good episodes, like do it once a week, but they're like really good.

And I'm like, that's like not how my brain works. I know you're freezing, but occasionally I'll have an idea and I'll be like, Oh wow, this is earth shattering for me. And I wish I could make like a better, a premium but this is definitely going to go in the best episodes category because. I think I now understand something that was really difficult for me to understand before.

And it gives me a better vision of what the Republican party is and where it's going. I'm so intrigued.

Would you like to know more?

Malcolm Collins: So, the thing that I didn't understand Is, I saw this at NatCon, but I've seen this more broadly. When I talk to conservatives that are in the old [00:01:00] conservative intellectual elite, these are the conservatives from the pre Trump era sort of staffers, intellectual elite, when I say intellectual elite, I mean the type of people who are at the think tanks, the type of people who are being paid.

Yeah, like career conservatives. They often come off to me as incredibly socialist, bordering on Marxist. And like Lyman Stone's a great example of this. He is a hardcore socialist. And I just didn't understand it. I didn't understand why they identified it with conservatism.

Now they're Christian socialists. And so I could kind of get that. I was like, well, maybe it's that because they're Christian, they don't feel that there'll be accepted in the progressive circle, so they just try to push their socialism in conservative circles. But generally speaking, I didn't get it.

I didn't get where this was coming from. And I also feel like my understanding of the conservative party transition was the introduction of Trump in post Trump has been, [00:02:00] Diluted, or like, not as good as I would like it to be. It has felt very, like, eh, like, I kinda get it, and I can put together, like, long explanations.

about what it is. But a really tight explanation that made it easy for me to understand like how the policy positions flipped in the way that they flipped. No, I was not capable of doing that.

So. I had this realization to me and I was like, oh my God, everything makes sense. So we're going to go over it.

But it is in understanding the conservative party and the waves of the conservative party. So first you had what I'm going to call GOP Inc. This is the pre Trump conservative coalition. This coalition used disgust based morality, as we've talked about in other episodes, to motivate its base. Like, ew, like that would be an ew thing.

But like, who actually made up its elite class, its philosophical class, and the class that it used to staff administrations? [00:03:00] It was an alliance of two interests. One interest group was These are people who had a strong religious framework for reality and believe that's, that should be represented in the government and should be legalized.

Like morality should be legislated. And the second IE people should be the, like the laws should be designed to force people to act more in line with their religious frameworks.

Simone Collins: Right.

Malcolm Collins: In the second framework in this team up was big business. And intergenerational wells. Now people today, if you're like gin alpha or Gen Z, you'll be like wait.

The people who ran large companies, people thought they were conservative. Historically, they didn't think they were the people staffing the white house. They were the core in like the Bush era in the 90s. This was a, like a Mr. Burns type characters. That was like, obviously Mr. Burns was a conservative and not a far progressive.

[00:04:00] But now it's

Simone Collins: inconceivable to think of an organ of a corporation, not being. At least trying to look woke

Malcolm Collins: ultra woke.

Actually here, I'm reminded a lot of a character like Jack Donaghy from 30 rock. The Jack Donaghy character in the modern world would just 100% be a progressive woke person. But in the time period, when 30 rock was filmed, it made sense to film him as a very conservative person, because he was a big business stooge. If you, It and just, you know, imagine like this.

So you go in the nineties, if you went to a company like a McKinsey or something like that. The default assumption would be, you know, you are a Bush supporter. If you go to McKinsey today. Cause I have a lot of friends who work at companies like Mackenzie. And Bain and everything like that. These companies. Wouldn't even hire someone like me.

Like I would be barred from being hired because I am publicly conservative.

That is how much things have flipped. Also this reflection. Helps me realize how perfect an avatar. I have [00:05:00] this old institution, Mitt Romney was the perfect big business. Plus theocrat candidate. And he couldn't win. And that's why the transition to a new system was necessary.

Malcolm Collins: Oh, well, it is also true for like the billionaires that were made in that generation. You know, you look at your Mark Zuckerberg's, you look at your Bill Gates or like really any of them.

They all are very much and a lot of the old money families went that way. I, there's this conference that you can go to, it's called a Nexus, which I'd been invited to, you know, cause my family is. love intergenerational wealth. I didn't get any of it, by the way. I was kicked out, but they did have it, which gives me invites to these sorts of things.

Or

I, PI,

Simone Collins: Institute of private investors, I think.

Malcolm Collins: But anyway, lots of intergenerational wealth at both of these, and they are the first furthest left things you could possibly imagine.

Simone Collins: Oh yeah.

Malcolm Collins: No better way to get a communist these days than be a billionaire's kid. And

Simone Collins: the Institute for Private

Malcolm Collins: Investors.

So, so I've been to these and this is a change. This didn't used to be the case. You know, it used to be that these [00:06:00] were pocket conservative factions. But they left the business owners and they left before trump came around. By the time trump hit the stage These people had left the coalition and the coalition was desperately signaling to try to keep them on board But they were mostly gone at that point and during that era while the Intergenerational wealth was conservative and the heads of companies, you know, your Jack Donaghy's, right?

Like he was a char