The Human Body is a Disposable Tool with a Shelf Life

We discuss the differing experiences of men and women as they age, using the analogy of youth being a fresh caught tuna that must get "sold" before it rots. Women are anxious to preserve their youth yet often end up just showing it off. Men don't face the same ticking clock. We must fight this by venerating motherhood, not telling women to "feel good" about decay.

Malcolm Collins: [00:00:00] if you didn't achieve, like I did achieve many of the things I was sort of. program to achieve at different parts of my life, right? But like, suppose you didn't get to sleep around a lot when you were younger. Right. If you then try to do that when you are middle aged or an old person. Which a

Simone Collins: lot of people try to do.

Malcolm Collins: You will not get the validation or the happiness or the satisfaction you would have gotten. It is really important to understand declaring bankruptcy on stages of your life and moving to the next stage of your life. It is like that

Simone Collins: declaring bankruptcy on certain life stages. It just wasn't going to happen.

Malcolm Collins: And then you can find new ways to optimize. There are new ways to optimize and still live a life of value. If you realize that you're middle aged or you're old and you never had kids and you never had a family, there are new ways you can Fill the role of an older mentor in your community and stuff like that.

Would you like to know more?

Simone Collins: Oh God. Yeah. When like, everyone was like, you can see every single pore that I have. Everything's horrible. When I [00:01:00] realized what we can do to fix my eyes is I just need to buy those like Naruto contact lenses or just like cinematic contact lenses, like just the just total black, you know, they're just completely black

So for anybody wondering what she was talking about there my wife is wearing sunglasses right now because what's that thing that happened? You had like a bud Bessel burst in your eye. Not because

Simone Collins: I look gnarly and disgusting. I mean more gnarly and

Malcolm Collins: disgusting than normal. I think you look beautiful, but this brings us to our topic today.

My wife has been Recently, you know, I was talking to her and she's like, I really do not like that. I feel like I'm beginning to look middle aged, you know, I am just my body. Yeah. And I was, it really sort of shocked me that this is still something that would be so concerning to her. The analogy I posted to Facebook, cause it got.

a bunch of angry comments, as people can guess. And I think that they're really indicative of where we are as a [00:02:00] society. So what I said is, My wife has been getting worried about beginning to look middle aged.

A woman pregnant with her fourth kid complaining about how her body looks to a devoted husband is like a fisherman with a pile of fish on the dock complaining about not having any worms. And of course people were like, and you know, some of my trans friends were like, Oh my gosh, you know, it really does matter that you're okay with your body.

And here I am like, no. No, it doesn't matter that you're okay with your body. F**k your body. Your body is a tool that is meant to be used. And, and if you use it well, this is a really interesting thing. And I think it's an analogy I will use for my daughters for their bodies, right? The terrible,

Young women in our society, it's like we as parents are giving them this really nice fish we caught like a tuna or something like that, we're like, go to the [00:03:00] market and get the best price you can for this fish.

And you know, some women just come back with cum all over their tuna and then nobody wants to buy it. You know, nobody, nobody wants a tuna that, that people have had an orgy on, but that's not the only way you can I feel like the metaphor

Simone Collins: is falling apart if that's what people are

Malcolm Collins: That's not the core way or the only way you can f**k up this little routine.

Okay? Okay. You go to the market and a lot of girls are coming back to their parents with a rotting tuna and saying, nobody wanted to give me a price that I thought it was worth, but look, I still got my tuna. The problem is, is that the tuna rots if you don't sell it. It is increasing in value with every second you haven't sold it.

And this is the tragedy. Like, men go out there and they're all like, men have it so hard in our society. And I'm not gonna lie about all the unfairnesses of being a man. But [00:04:00] you're not dealing with this same ticking clock that women are dealing with.

Simone Collins: Yeah, and it's not, it's not just appearance. It's, it's biology too.

Like if one does want to have children. So even if one is totally like, yeah, appearance should be nothing. There's still this other functional limiting factor, which sucks.

Malcolm Collins: Yeah. Yeah. And it creates this, this environment where we tell girls protect the tuna, protect the tuna, protect the tuna to the point where they forget the point.

Was that the tuna was supposed to set them up for the next stage of life. They sell the tuna, then they open the fish store or whatever it is they're doing next. Right? The tuna wasn't the point. They're just supposed to protect the tuna on the way to the market. Sorry, you hate this analogy. Become a,

Simone Collins: yeah, because everyone's goal is to become a fishmonger.

Yeah, I mean, yeah, I, I, I hear you though. Yeah. And I, rotting fish is definitely a. A strong analogy when it comes

Malcolm Collins: to yeah, I thought it had a certain. Well, and I also like the worm analogy, like being bemoaning that you don't have the [00:05:00] worm when you have the greater prize that the worm was meant to catch.

And so a lot of people are like, well, my wife life, like my life as a woman is not about. Having kids, right? I'll come to you with this, I'll say. So therefore, well therefore what? You're going to get old no matter what you do. Right? And you do have certain advantages within many environments. Whether it's your workplace, or whether it's your you know, anything.

Even just like generically, socially often, if you're an attractive woman. Now there are downsides to it. It actually can hurt you in female environments. And women will do things to hurt attractive women more. This is like... You've been shown in a bunch of studies, but generally you have an arbitrage opportunity.

So then, as you age, regardless of whether or not you've sort of dedicated your life to the intergenerational game of building a family or anything else you can ask yourself, did I make use of this asset while it was available [00:06:00] to me? And if you did, then great! Okay, you, you did something that I think was pointless, but at least you did it well, you know, at least you actually utilized the asset while you had access to it.

But what is completely feckless is not utilizing the asset at all in spending your entire life in veneration of a decaying asset. And how does this happen in a secular society? Why in our secular world do we end up venerating these decaying assets? Okay, okay, okay.

Simone Collins: So let's, let's move to this fishmonger world, right?

Okay. This is, this is a world then where on every social media platform, it is just people holding their freshly caught, shining, glittering, untouched tuna fish. And That's what people are rewarded for. And there are no, there's no glorification of being a fishmonger. There's no glorification of, of all of that [00:07:00] part of life.

And so