The Deep State's Attempt to Dismantle the Pronatalist Movement (A Spy Went After Us And We Can Prove It)

In this revealing episode, we dive deep into the controversial ties between Hope Not Hate, the British government, and media organizations. We uncover shocking evidence of government funding and intelligence collaboration aimed at suppressing independent voices. Through meticulous investigation, we explore the legal and ethical boundaries crossed by various parties, from undercover journalism to extremist ideologies. The discussion spans topics such as funding misuse, political affiliations, and the impact of modern cultural narratives, providing anecdotes and testimonies from those directly affected. Join us as we navigate the intricate web of political, media, and intelligence connections, and challenge mainstream narratives to reveal the hidden agendas at play.

00:00 Introduction and Initial Revelations

01:00 Deep State and Mind Virus

02:19 Hope Not Hate: Analyzing the Organization

04:02 Evidence and Accusations

08:41 Government Connections and Funding

15:24 Undercover Operations and Personal Accounts

22:59 Media Manipulation and Public Perception

31:10 Concluding Thoughts and Future Implications

55:55 Cultural Preservation and Misunderstandings

56:17 Humor and Left-Wing Media Critique

57:14 Infiltration Tactics and Biographical Questions

58:12 Racism and Cultural Heritage

58:53 Pronatalist Movement and Misconceptions

01:00:22 Undercover Operations and Dehumanization

01:10:04 Scientific Racism and Media Influence

01:11:35 Video Game Controversies and Historical Revisionism

01:30:09 Far-Right Misconceptions and Radicalization

01:35:09 Concluding Thoughts and Personal Reflections

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Malcolm Collins: Hello, Simone. We recently did an episode on an undercover reporter who was investigating us for at least a year.

Now, it appears we were wrong, and that this, who we thought was an undercover reporter, might have actually been a spy working for the British government.

Other people have collected tons of evidence that suggests this already.

Malcolm Collins: But we basically collected the quote unquote final piece of evidence. Then the other people who have been collecting evidence on this organization for a long time. reviewed and it's like this basically seals the case that this is an organization used by British intelligence to try to put out a parallel narrative.

And so we did something that pissed off the deep state. Bad,

Speaker 3: What's it thinking, Colonel?

Speaker 4: It's afraid. It's [00:01:00] afraid!

Malcolm Collins: but it gets worse than that because what we're going to explore here is how the deep state was captured by the mind virus so much that taxpayer dollars could be used through authoritative fascist like, you know, government systems to track down everyday citizens fighting for citizens freedoms.

Fighting for humanity to continue to exist and attempt to F up their lives.

Simone Collins: Yeah, because a lot of the people that hope not hate have doxxed. Their biggest crime seems to just be not towing the narrative. Now, I wouldn't say that I, I, we, I, neither of us would endorse the views of everyone that hope not hate.

As an organization has outed or criticized. However, it does seem like a lot of the people they've outed are, their crime is not towing a leftist narrative.

Malcolm Collins: Yeah so we will, well, other people have noticed this as well.

They claim to be a group that's against anti [00:02:00] Semitism, and yet they have done Nothing on the left right now was the huge amounts of anti Semitism that we are seeing on the streets of London and from the mouths of MPs and yet nothing. So, you know, it's, it's, it's once anti Semitism was normalized on the left, we're like, Oh, we're going to throw that out.

That's not really one of those things we're fighting anymore. But I wanted to say in the, in the, in the words of one of our commenters on this, and I thought that they described this organization very well. And this is somebody from the UK who's had some experience with the organization.

Hope not hate appears to be viscerally hostile to anything or anybody that represents genuine human interaction, humor, and popular democratic pushback to the ruling oligarchy. They're probably funded, I'm guessing here, by global corporations and institutions. It's not, by the UK government. They say they're not, but we have receipts proving they are.

Who dislike agency of citizens and genuine popular democracy because it gets in their way. It seems like their funder's [00:03:00] aim is to maintain the status quo in which all mainstream political parties are captured, controlled, and flat out refuse to represent ordinary voters.

Incidentally, the idiot hope not hate Radical activists probably think you two are monsters, but they're shadowy and cynical funders Won't believe their propaganda vote simone. So basically Bad, I I actually don't have any beef with them as human beings I I think that the guy was probably the guy we

Simone Collins: met with seemed like a nice person He's probably

Malcolm Collins: a well meaning guy who just got wiped, wrapped up in this ideology and doesn't realize that he's fighting for the fascists and the oligarchs now.

Yeah, I think

Simone Collins: that's how it is with many people on the left, is they're pro social, well meaning people. Many of them want the best for humanity, want human flourishing. This undercover reporter still came across as a nice, intelligent guy with thoughtful comments that.

was, you know, he came across as a little racist, which [00:04:00] made us somewhat uncomfortable, but

. What it does appear is there is concrete evidence that this is an arm of the deep state. The deep state is scared of our growing movement, the new right, the pronatalists and then, if Trump wins, Hopefully we can begin to dismantle the Deep State.

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Simone Collins: I, I want to emphasize here though how meaningful this is, because I think we used to joke about the Deep State. Possibly going after people for having the wrong narrative or for not supporting them.

But I never really believed that could possibly be true. It seems that now there's some evidence that this actually is happening. There's overwhelming evidence, but

Malcolm Collins: that's actually not the evidence we're going to go into a ton today because there's actually more evidence about this than, than we're going to go into here, but let's just [00:05:00] start with a writeup.

So this is from raw egg nationalists where he's going through his own research on this., because he was one of the people who was doxxed by Hope Not Hate And I'm, I'm going to be heavily Summarizing this, . I spoke to a number of people who said there must be an intelligence connection at work.

This included people with backgrounds in the military and intelligence themselves. When I told them what happened at the farm shop, they were convinced. No way that was a coincidence. Quote unquote, somebody, meaning intelligence, Must have been, quote unquote, shopping around, information about me, perhaps even just my name, in the weeks before I was doxxed.

If that was the case, Catherine Long probably already knew who I was when she emailed the farm shop. She was trying to get a confirmation, a non intelligent source, for a parallel construction. So, essentially the organization that doxed him did through by as