Shock Study: Psychologists (+Far Left) Turn Teens Against Parents (& Destroy Their Mental Health)
In this eye-opening video, Malcolm and Simone Collins delve into the controversial world of modern therapy, particularly focusing on Dialectical Behavior Therapy (DBT) and its impact on teenagers. They discuss a recent study revealing the negative effects of DBT interventions on adolescents, including worsened depressive symptoms and strained parent-child relationships. The couple explores how therapy culture has evolved into a cult-like system, drawing parallels with historical cult tactics and modern urban monoculture. They also touch on the dangers of over-medicalizing normal human emotions and the importance of critical thinking when approaching mental health treatments. This in-depth analysis offers a thought-provoking look at the current state of mental health care for young people and suggests alternative approaches to emotional well-being.
Malcolm Collins: [00:00:00] The main findings, DBT intervention did not improve outcomes significant deteriorations were observed across outcomes immediately post
Simone Collins: intervention. Make
Malcolm Collins: things worse. Um, Largest deteriorations were seen in depressive symptoms and, if you really need
Simone Collins: the help, it makes things even worse.
Malcolm Collins: Teen participants continue to report significantly poorer quality of parent child relationships, specifically mother relationships.
And I think that comes
Simone Collins: down to the way in which This kind of behavior can irreparably recontextualize the way that you see your relationship. And I think it's really hard to fix that damage.
Malcolm Collins: And it's a very effective cult tactic. Pretty much all cults do this. They try to convince you that , your primary support network is being abusive to you. And your primary support network is usually your parents or your birth culture,
And you are of high intellect, Peggy. No matter what you've been told by your husband? No. Your father? Not really. Mother. [00:01:00] How did you know? Because we love you!
Malcolm Collins: This ultra urban monoculture is what we historically would have recognized. As a cult.
Excuse me, are y'all with the cult? We're not a cult. We're an organization that promotes love and Yeah, this is it
Malcolm Collins: it didn't used to be like this.
Like I wasn't interested in high school. I supported it in high school. It has been taken over by a cult.
Is the holy guide to living pure, this will help explain. First, Laughter. Her name's Lorraine, too? We're all Lorraine, and you will be Todd. A name chosen especially for you oh. You're not
An oppressed minority. you're a cult!
Would you like to know more?
Malcolm Collins: Hello, Simone, you sent a study to me that absolutely shocked me, and I really want to go over the results of it because I think [00:02:00] it is
Simone Collins: terrifying, fascinating, disturbing, but also pretty definitive proof of your claim. That one of the primary means by which the urban monoculture spreads is through therapy culture and that it uses therapy culture primarily to alienate young people from their support network.
So
Malcolm Collins: let's dive into actually and leading to these. Absolutely horrible. We did another episode recently showing that one in 10 kids in school right now has thought about unaliving themselves this past year. Like that is an insane statistic,
the percent that made a plan to unalive themselves, 24 percent among young women, 12 percent among young men. Yeah. The ones who seriously considered attempting at 30 percent young women, 14 percent young men. The feeling persistent sadness, 57 percent of young women, 29 percent of young men.
So what is happening in schools right now is not working. And a big part of this is the infiltration of, as I've always said, modern psychology has become more like [00:03:00] a cult. What you get, if you go into a modern psychologist today, is a cult. Is much closer to what Scientology was doing with people in the 90s, then what would happen if you saw a psychologist in the 90s?
And I'm not saying all psychologists fall into this, but the ones that are influencing the policy, what's happening to kids are and we can see this. In the study data. So what was the name of the study again? Simone, I've got all the information on it. I just
Simone Collins: got
The study is called investigating the efficacy of a dialectical behavior therapy based universal intervention on adolescent social and emotional wellbeing outcomes. That's a mouthful, but they're basically like. Does dbt help teams? That's what they're trying to find out here.
Malcolm Collins: So this is a AI summary of what the study ended up showing and the way the study was constructed, which I'm guessing is probably what you were going to read.
AI
Simone Collins: explains it in plainer English. How it is with these academic studies, they like decide to make them harder to understand. A
Malcolm Collins: lot of people buried the lead with the title of this study because the results [00:04:00] are shocking.
Simone Collins: It could be one of those. Is in which they primarily did this research to try to show how good and effective dbt was and then it turned out to really hurt so they had to obfuscate things in the wording just so that you know the people who funded it didn't get super offended and never fund them again.
I think that's more probably what's going on here. Yeah.
Malcolm Collins: So study design and participants, it was a non randomized controlled trial, which is pretty good. It had over 1000 participants pretty well split on gender. The intervention group had 563 participants and eight sessions of a WISE Teens program.
We'll be talking about this group in a second but you did the DBT. And the control group with around 508 participants class as usual. Just so people know what this means from like a science perspective, it means that the results of this were likely very robust. Not something where you can be like, oh the sample size was small, or it wasn't controlled or blah, blah, blah.
The main findings, the WISE Teens [00:05:00] intervention did not improve outcomes overall since the DBT intervention, significant deteriorations were observed across outcomes immediately post
Simone Collins: intervention. Make
Malcolm Collins: things worse. Um, Largest deteriorations were seen in depressive symptoms and, if you really need
Simone Collins: the help, it makes things even worse.
Malcolm Collins: Yes and and it explains remember how I was showing like the rate of depression going up in young kids and yet we're seeing more and more like DBT therapy being put on these otherwise mentally healthy young kids. It's like adding fuel to the fire. It's adding fuel to the
Simone Collins: fire.
Malcolm Collins: But While most group differences dissipated at follow up, if you can get out of the therapy culture, but if the kids get roped in and they end up building a trauma dependency on a therapist, a lot of therapy culture today is about trying to incept people with the idea of trauma.
Yeah, stop them from detracting. Where they would try to get you to believe that like something in your youth created the thing that you couldn't get away from and that you needed to keep seeing them to create dependency, right? But the thing that didn't disappear, okay, [00:06:00] was why is te
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