Males Who Flex Wealth Are Gender Swapped THOTs
In this thought-provoking discussion, we analyze why men flaunting fancy cars, watches, and other displays of wealth can seem strangely similar to women posting sexualized images. We argue both represent kinds of signaling not aligned with long-term monogamy.
For men acquiring trophies wives, the woman herself becomes a sexual status symbol. Yet this disposability makes trophy relationships precarious for women. More broadly, more meaningful displays like family commitment and mentorship better indicate male status. We see obsessive wealth flexing as an addiction distracting from real impact, similar to female vanity.
Ultimately, both genders sometimes get distracted maximizing the wrong kinds of social status. Redirecting these motives toward posterity could better serve society.
Malcolm Collins: [00:00:00] when I see older men do this, right, it reminds me a lot of of a older woman trying to show off her sexuality, like a Madonna showing off her sexuality.
Every time I see some old man with eight fancy cars in his garage, and he's married. And I'm like, why aren't you investing in your kids companies? Why aren't you helping them get off the ground? And if you don't have kids, why aren't you putting money into causes that you care about? The world is literally falling apart, and you are sexually signaling to a F*****g mirror.
It's weird and pathetic.
Simone Collins: Yeah. I mean, it is interesting that it isn't seen as obscene in society for a man to signal his wealth as it is for a woman to signal her sexual availability. Why I think it's uniquely strange is that we already live in a society that, that demoralizes men for pretty much everything else they do.
Why do you think this isn't being demoralized?
Malcolm Collins: [00:01:00] So there's easy glib answers I could give, right? Like they want men to waste their lives. They don't want money that could go to fixing things to go to fixing things because fixing things removes the people in power from power. I don't think this is why. No, I'm just being clear. I don't think this is I'll tell you why,
Would you like to know more?
Simone Collins: Hello gorgeous. Hello
Malcolm Collins: Simone. It is wonderful to be here with you today. I am excited for this topic. It came up when we were doing the Just Pearly thing recording, like in the moment I was thinking about this. bEcause in the, in the episode, the,
Simone Collins: the thesis for context, a couple of weeks back, we were on the just pearly things pregame show.
It is a panel based show where Hannah Pearl Davis you know, discusses various topics and a bunch of randos who show up discuss with her. And one thing that she started doing near the end of the pregame show was pull up images of women on Twitter and criticize them for [00:02:00] dressing in provocative ways.
So
Malcolm Collins: which, which, you know, it's funny that maybe if you look at our episode with Louise Perry, what we need as a society, more women I don't know if that episode will air before this one or not, but more women being criticized for when they are outside of their younger age phase, because, you know, women like men go through multiple phases where they are psychologically optimized for different things and when, which they should be optimized for different things.
And if you are a mother and a wife, You know, being a thirst trap, it's probably not you've got to ask, why are you still doing that? Like, why are you still looking for validation from men who are not your husband on online environments? Right? That is something that maybe people should be shamed for? So, anyway. However, we had a theory on this show that came up that I had never really thought through before,
Simone Collins: , you would support the idea of using social shaming to [00:03:00] encourage society to ease into various stages of life that actually work sustainably, like going from being a young woman who banks on her sexual attractiveness to being more of a matriarch who focuses more on motherhood and building a career than to more of a matriarch who focuses on, on mentorship and using shame to kind of enforce that.
Yeah.
Malcolm Collins: And I think this makes sense. And I think that, you know, it was in the red pill. We see this okay, if a woman is married and she is projecting to society, I am in a monogamous relationship. You know, why is she doing this stuff? Right? Like, why is she doing the sexual signaling? We would look at her really weird.
If she walked down the street was like little, you know, pins on her, her nipples and nothing else. And in some ridiculous outfit, you're like, who are you signaling to? And worse than walking down the street posted. picture on social media. But this gets really interesting. So what is the male equivalent to this?
Right? Well, in, in humans women signal [00:04:00] using their bodies often. That is how they attract mates. How do men often attract mates? Well, men attract mates showing success and material wealth. That being the case, the male equivalent, To this sort of vain sexual advertisement is a man who is in a, at least claimed, monogamous relationship with kids and stuff like that, wasting money on vanity signals of wealth.
Simone Collins: Yeah, flaunting his wealth. Essentially to like Cars. Yeah, if, if women bring their Youth and beauty and we'll say fertility to the table. Then what men bring is their resources. So a man flaunting his resources is doing the same thing as a woman flaunting her body and youth. Right.
Malcolm Collins: I mean, who are you signaling to?
You know, if you're a married man, right, especially a married man [00:05:00] with kids, and you get some ultra fancy car, you know, that money could have gone to your kid's education, that money could have gone to making the world a better place, like, why, specifically, were you doing that? And this gets really interesting to me, because when we were on the panel, there was this other guy.
I like him. He's a nice guy. Like I didn't want to like debate him or anything on the show, but his job is selling status to young men through fancy suits and, and, and stuff like that. Right. And he seems to really indulge in this status. And he was like, yeah, but well, first, the first thing is like, is well, fancy cars helped me get my wife to sleep with me.
Basically. He's I got a fancy car and that's why I have as many kids as I have. So, you know, you guys as pernatalists should be promoting fancy cars.
Simone Collins: Which is to me, I think that's just cope. You don't need that to get someone to sleep with you. I mean, I think the women who are most satisfied in the relationships feel supported. And loved and also see you know, they're, they're male partners, especially if they already have kids being great dads.
Like to me, [00:06:00] that is the sexiest stuff you ever do.
Malcolm Collins: Well, I mean, it just isn't true. So if you are in a long term married relationship and your wife only sees you attractive when you increase in terms of wasteful displays of wealth. That's
Simone Collins: worrying. That's a bad, I also, I can't imagine. I can't imagine doing that.
Like to be. A partner, and then be feel, feel more secure in your partner choice when your partner spends money on luxury goods and keep in mind, by the way, the typical male spending for sexual signaling, you know, cars, watches, suits, et cetera, this is not really stuff that benefits a female partner. It is stuff that benefits the male partner you know, taking a female partner for a ride to the store i
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