"Liberalism and the Death of Masculinity" with Raw Egg Nationalist

In this episode, we speak with Raw Egg Nationalist about the premise of his upcoming book "Liberalism and the Death of Masculinity." He discusses how liberal democracy fails to satisfy men's innate desire for distinction and greatness (megalothymia).

Raw Egg argues that liberalism combined with environmental pollution and unhealthy lifestyles has created a "perfect storm" causing plummeting testosterone levels and the decline of traditional masculinity. He explains how chemicals like BPA mimic estrogen and are implicated in testosterone decline.

We cover simple steps men and women can take to improve hormonal health, including avoiding plastics, personal care products with chemicals, and adopting diets and lifestyles that mitigate pollution. Raw Egg argues testosterone decline will have biological and social impacts, and that preserving masculinity is about more than just aggression.

Overall an urgent wake-up call about the threats modern society poses to masculinity on multiple fronts.

Raw Egg Nationalist: [00:00:00] There's a new study that shows that or that suggests that women who take the combined hormonal contraceptive pill, they actually suffer shrinkage in particular regions of their brain. Yeah, it's, it's quite a shocking study that's just come out.

Yeah, wow. Question,

Simone Collins: of those who had taken, women who had taken hormonal contraceptives and then stopped, did they show signs of

Raw Egg Nationalist: recovery?

Yes, they did. So there was no difference in there. So, so it looks like it might be reversible. But then there are other studies. There are other studies. There was a study of hormonal contraceptive use and its relationship to depression recently. And it showed that If you started taking hormonal contraceptive as a teenager, you would, and then went to, and then, and then stopped taking it, you would always have a massively increased risk of depression as a girl.

Whereas if you, if you're a, an adult woman and you go on it, and then you come off, your [00:01:00] rate of depression falls back to the norm. So that suggests that there is clearly some developmental function or developmental process that is affected in some way by taking a hormonal contraceptive as a teenager rather than as an adult.

Would you like to know more?

Simone Collins: Hi everyone. Welcome back to base camp and a very special episode of it at that because we are joined by raw egg nationalists who I'm so excited to meet.

We're meeting him because he's also speaking at the natalism conference that we're going to go to in Austin this December. But we'd been very familiar with his work before. So yay, we haven't used to talk with him. If you don't know rag nationalist he is an anonymous. Twitter user with some really fun content.

It's, it's, his Twitter username is actually baby gravy nine, but he goes under raw egg nationalist. You won't miss him. Plus he's written four books. All part of the raw egg nationalist present presents series on Amazon, but the most famous one is probably raw [00:02:00] egg nationalism. In theory and practice.

Don't you think so? But the

Malcolm Collins: next book is going to be different and that's what we're going to be talking about today. So tell us a little bit about this upcoming book and what it's on.

Raw Egg Nationalist: Well, it's a pleasure to be speaking with you both. This is, I've been really been looking forward to this. So, I wrote a book.

My last book was called the Eggs Benedict Option, and that was my most detailed work to date about Health and nutrition. I talked about basically about the global plan for a, or the plan for a global plant based diet and, and the health and political ramifications of that. So, I'm kind of, I'm following on from that and I'm, I'm writing in the same vein as, as, as sort of all of the other books that I've written, the, the main things that I focus on.

But the, the book is going to be called The Last Men, Liberalism and the Decline of Mas or actually Liberalism and the Death of Masculinity, rather. And it's about, well, it's about, it's about a lot of different [00:03:00] topics that are, that are very germane to our, to our interests, our shared interests, to this natalism conference that we're going to, that we're both going to be, or that we're all rather going to be attending.

It starts with a, it starts with a, a reinterpretation of Francis Fukuyama and his end of history thesis. And there's... There's something very interesting. I mean, Fukuyama is a, is a thinker who is, he's, he's caricatured, he's straw manned, you know, people see him as the epitome of liberal hubris, and, you know, he's somebody who, who supposedly believed that liberalism was the end stage of history in a very uncomplicated way, and, and, you know, an, an un nuanced way, but actually when you read, when you go back and read The End of History, what you notice first, or what I notice, what I, I, I came to my attention was the fact that actually the book is called The End of History And The Last Man Oh, and the, and The Last Man Bit is very, very [00:04:00] important.

That's the final quarter of the book, and it's actually probably, it's a, it's an absolutely devastating critique of liberal democracy. of the shallowness of liberal democracy and the fact that it will basically never be able to satisfy certain of man's very, very fundamental wants and needs, including what the Greeks called megalothymia, which is the desire for distinction.

So, men desire distinction. Men desire to be better than one another. A man desires to be better than his peers. You know, to stand head and shoulders above, above the rest of the competition. And that's something Fukuyama says. Look, liberalism is predicated on this thing called isothymia, which means that everybody is equal.

It's, you know, it's a desire for equality. So, liberalism can satisfy that aspect of our personality, this desire. to, to be recognized at least as equals with our [00:05:00] fellow men, but it can't do anything to provide us with a satisfying output for the desire, actually, to seek distinction.

Malcolm Collins: I, I this is the term, the term here is megalothymia.

Raw Egg Nationalist: Yeah, megalothymia is what liberalism can't satisfy.

Malcolm Collins: Yeah, well I also like this term in, in relation to the manosphere, because it sounds to me like a very good mirror for hypergamy in which we often talk about females having hypergamy, and I absolutely do believe that males have megalothymia. That's it.

Innate desire to be better than other men, and you're right, it is not something that is provided for or, or lauded within this system.

Raw Egg Nationalist: Well, what's, but what's, I mean, what's interesting, of course, about this is that these are Greek terms, you know. Two, two, two and a half thousand years ago, the Greeks recognized, the Greeks had a better understanding of, I would say, individual psychology in many respects.

and the kind of [00:06:00] motivating factors that, that drive people to do particular things as human beings in a social setting. Well, Fukuyama says, look liberalism is always going to have this massive, massive blind spot. It's not going to be able to satisfy peop ma ma man's, and I think he means particularly men's, desire for distinction.

Well, I think that... I start from, I start and I say, look, this is actually really what Fukuyama is getting at. You know, he's not talking about the fact that liberalism is the best system in the world. And, you know, we've, we've reached the end point of history. He's actually saying we've reached this very difficult impasse where