How Did the Gender Wars Get This Bad? With Alex Kaschuta

In this thought-provoking episode, Simone and Malcolm sit down with Alex Kaschuta, the host of the Subversive Podcast, to discuss the escalating gender wars in the digital age. They explore how the internet has amplified polarization between men and women, the role of evolutionary psychology in shaping online discourse, and the impact of globalization and cultural homogenization on gender dynamics. The conversation also delves into the aspirational lifestyles promoted by figures like Andrew Tate, the challenges of navigating relationships and sexuality in the internet era, and strategies for raising children in a world saturated with digital influences. Join them as they unpack the complexities of gender relations in the modern world and offer insights on fostering a healthier understanding between the sexes.

Simone Collins: Hello everyone. Today we are joined by one of my favorite people in the entire world, Alex Kashuda. She is probably someone you've heard of through her podcast Subversive, which is how I learned about her. She also has a sub stack at alexkashuda. substack. com. It's called the Garden of Earthly Delights.

She has excellent content there as well. Also, Do check her out today. We're going to talk about gender wars, which is really exciting because everyone loves talking about it. Come on. It's, it's fun.

Would you like to know more?

Malcolm Collins: I'd love to hear how you got on this topic, Alec. Oh, and I should also note, like, if you don't know who Alex is, Alex is probably one of the most famous dissident intellectuals in sort of the idea space right now in terms of and interviews a lot of other dissonant intellectuals.

Alex Kaschuta: Thank you. That's very yeah, I feel flattered by that introduction. It's very sweet. Yes, I mean, this is a, this is, I feel like it's a topic that maybe this is my algorithm. Cause I'm just like so morbidly curious [00:01:00] about what's going on. So obviously now I have a small child, I am breastfeeding all the time.

So I'm also staring at my phone all the time, lurking, you know, reading stuff online more than usual. And it seems to me like if things are kind of, bubbling up in a, in a. Almost like violent way, like the discourse has. You know, I keep saying this, but it's like, you know, Rwandan radio levels of hatred between the sexes have been brewing now it's, it's you know, I'm someone who made quite a lot of my following on Twitter by, you know, being honest about sex differences and, you know, essentially, kind of like, you know, human biodiversity, but with with a sex lens, because that was, you know, that was interesting to me at that point.

And these things are, you know, Quite kind of uncontroversial in some ways, like sex differences do exist, you know, they're interesting, people like talking about them but I feel like You know, there was a certain dynamic and certain incentives on these platforms that take things like that assert a level of discourse that [00:02:00] is based on you know, what's that called the evolutionary psychology and all these things that that are they're interesting to people in the space and then yeah, reduce them to the lowest common denominator and great kind of like many, you know, sub cults around personalities that Yeah, it's quite interesting.

I mean, even even kind of from a cold perspective, just looking at at how the space is morphed from when I, you know, started posting about it to what's going on now, it's It makes me think that, you know, maybe there's a certain even to, to truths that are quite basic, like this is quite, you know, mundane stuff.

We kind of forgot about it for a while, but, you know, the fact that there are certain average differences between the sexes. Yeah. I mean, that's something that was kind of instinctively known for a while, you know, present in many stereotypes for sure. But now that it's kind of out there and, and It's almost kind of like codified in the intranet.

It, it's turned into an info hazard in a way, like, and it's, it's gotten kind [00:03:00] of monstrous in a way. So I feel like maybe we should be a bit more blue pilled about these things. I don't know. It's just, I, I recoil at what's going on right now and I'm afraid for all of us. Our

Malcolm Collins: future a thesis on what's going on right now.

Historically speaking the humans, at least the humans that survived, we're always in opposite gender pairs. And so they always had a level of interest in the other gender, even though they were different. And when they had kids, 50 percent of those kids would be the other gender. So they would have interest in the other gender as we move to like as marriage rates fall dramatically across the world.

And as fertility rates are falling dramatically across the world, there's a large group of individuals that really only has the best interest of one gender in terms of any of their the ways that they're trying to influence the public. On top of that, we live in a society where, I say, sometimes I'm like, wouldn't it be cool if, like, Neanderthals were still around?

Like, you could interact with something that was almost like a human, but, like, had [00:04:00] pretty vastly different mental proficiencies and perspectives. And I'm like, but we kind of live like that already. Like men and women can almost be thought of as two different sort of hominid species that live alongside each other.

And

Alex Kaschuta: historically promote this in the dissident. Be careful.

Malcolm Collins: Yeah. Historically these, these two groups they always had to work together. But now because they don't as much anymore, As soon as women got the right to vote, we were sort of on a crash course to a society in which one party represented the needs and wants of one of the two groups, and then the other party represented the needs and wants of the other of the two groups.

And I do think that in a way, that's where sort of politics is drifting throughout the world, is a feminine mindset and a masculine mindset in terms of, you know, Policy positions. But yeah, open to hear your thoughts on this

Alex Kaschuta: theory. No, I think, I think that's fair. I [00:05:00] think that's, you know, as someone who's a little bit skeptical about democracy in general, I don't necessarily know if it's that tied to the vote.

I think it's more tied to the fact that materially women have kind of unlinked from The protection, like physical protection in terms of, okay, I'm fighting off invading predators, be those in the forms of men, or I don't know, big cats and stuff like that, that was really necessary back in the day.

And the fact that a lot of women really don't need provision from men. And I think there's a, quite a big class of men who kind of expected to have that, to bring that to the table. Okay. I'm going to provide for my family or, you know, whatever parameters society around them. Gave them like for example now You have the phenomenon of the of the two income household.

It's pretty tough to maintain a middle class standard of living without making, you know, big sacrifices. If you want to have a family or, you know, Children, multiple many, many Children in the style of the Collins is without making some [00:06:00] sacrifices in your social status and, you know, kind of going down the rung of where you find yourself as you know, in your relative status in the groups that you're in.

So, I think that's, that's been a bit complicated because essentially, you know, I also draw from what I see around me and I'm looking at you know, I have a lot of friends who would like to get married. And at one point I was really critical. I was like, okay, come on, you know, you're 30 years old women, come on, i