France & China New (Game Over) Fertility Data

Malcolm and Simone analyze shocking new fertility collapse data - France reaching new record lows, and China seeing 60%+ declines in just 8 years. China links this to gays in bizarre "beware homosexuals" lectures while France pursues worse policy. They discuss China's likely future restrictions and coercions as the "handmaid's tale" bellwether, as well as pollution's sterility impact. For France, only serious cultural renewal could help.

Malcolm Collins: [00:00:00] France this year began to fall into freefall. Or in this past couple years, it's begun to fall into freefall. And it really can no longer be included in the club of countries that are resistant to fertility collapse. And I, there's been new data from China

What that would represent is a decline of 60 percent from 2016

60%. That is catastrophic. Imagine if this was like an economy, right, and an economy shrunk by 60 percent in eight years. This is the fertility equivalent of hyperinflation. It is the fertility equivalent of having to walk around with wheelbarrows to buy a loaf of bread. A wheelbarrow is full of cash, you know, when you hear about these situations.

People do not understand the societal effects this is going to have. And anyone who's in one of these groups that is going to be targeted because of this, like the LGBT populations around the world if you [00:01:00] cannot fix this problem, if you cannot convince people who are okay with gay people existing to have kids at an above replacement fertility rate, you will be hunted down and systemically exterminated, and we're beginning to see the first waves of this.

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Malcolm Collins: 1 of the really funny things that happened to us on a recent flight was over the speakers.

They had to explain. When the mass drop, you know, in case of a depressurization of the cabin be sure to take off your mask before putting on the the math that's delivering oxygen. So this is, and I turned

Simone Collins: to Malcolm and I'm like, you know what? These people, let them go.

Malcolm Collins: Just genuinely, if you are so terrified about COVID still that you are wearing a mask and end up.

The cabin is depressurized and you try to put the oxygen

Simone Collins: mask over your N95. Yeah, really?

Malcolm Collins: You probably should die. Like, I'm sorry, like the human civilization [00:02:00] is better without you. And I salute your contribution for it by ducking

Simone Collins: out. Yeah. Let, let nature play. It's course on this crashing air, not that like, you're going to survive anyway, but I guess you have to door blows out.

Nevermind. But yeah, that was a, that was a really astounding. So that must have meant that on this flight 1 or more people put on an oxygen mask on top of their.

Malcolm Collins: This is new. This must have been when the door

Simone Collins: blew out. Yeah, this must have been when the door blew out because this was a new comment we'd never heard on a flight.

We've been on plenty of flights. Someone out there needed to be told anyway. Yikes. Okay. Now for hey, my gorgeous demigod of a husband. What do China and France have in common that is not a love of couture?

Malcolm Collins: Well, a recent fertility collapse, but I actually want to, the countries are very different, but we're going to talk about them together in this video because we recently did an all China video.

And [00:03:00] I, there's been new data from China that is really shocking to us, but there's also been new data for France. So, China has historically been having a fertility collapse problem. It's just infinitely worse than anyone thought. Recent statistics show that in just the last eight years, the number of kids being born within China has declined by 60%.

And I'm gonna post a graph here that shows how much year over year, but this means for like the past five years, you've had double digit declines in fertility rate every single year. That's insane. But France has actually, along with the U. S., been one of the countries that has really bucked this trend.

So. The United States, as everyone knows is one of the countries that actually has fertility rate fall slower than other countries. The two other countries that really fit this when you're talking about their, their at least if you control for their wealth are, have historically been Israel and France.

Right? So if we're talking about year over year decline in the U. S. fertility rate, this last year I think it was only 2%. Well, [00:04:00] France this year began to fall into freefall. Or in this past couple years, it's begun to fall into freefall. And it really can no longer be included in the club of countries that are resistant to fertility collapse.

Yeah, which we, we're really

Simone Collins: excited about. I mean There was one, you know,

Malcolm Collins: yeah, so I'll post a graph on this screen and we actually posted a meme of like the fire dog alongside this graph because you can see this is like a falling off a cliff fertility rate at this point, but also, you know, France registered.

So we're going to post an article here. 678, 000 births last year, representing a decrease of 7 percent from 2022 and down 20 percent from 2020. That is absolutely shocking. Now, France is trying to adapt to this. They are trying to give They're actually doing a bunch of stuff that's going to make the problem worse.[00:05:00]

So let's talk about what they're doing, and then we can contrast this with some of the new things that we've learned that China is doing. Nobody

Simone Collins: listens to you, Malcolm. It's so sad. Why won't they just listen?

Malcolm Collins: Nobody listens to me. I'm just out there telling them, What you're doing is not going to work.

What you're doing

Simone Collins: is not going to work. Is, is right now of the news outlets that are reaching out to, to us about demographic collapse, the vast majority of them have been French recently. Like France is aware of this, but they're like doing it

Malcolm Collins: totally wrong. Yeah. Okay. So what is France doing? They are extending maternity leave.

And giving more paid maternity leave. That is the dumbest thing you could do. If you care about high fertility weights, you should remove maternity leave at all as a concept. Like it is a bad concept because it creates this idea that women must be pampered throughout their pregnancy, which increases the perceived difficulty of the pregnancy to the woman.

Do you want to talk about this? It's

Simone Collins: like a cultural it's, it's considerate propaganda. [00:06:00] That's saying that having a kid is incredibly difficult. Also, if you actually care about like feminism in the workplace, making women more dangerous employees to have, and especially women who seem to want to have a family.

Is not a good way, especially in France, where it's already almost impossible to fire someone once you hire them. Not a good way to make women a safe hire.

Malcolm Collins: No, this is terrible for women. Terrible. And worse than that. I mean, so what do you do? Like what is the actual policy you should be pushing in this area?

It should be, it should be that you cannot disallow women from bringing their baby into the workplace. And that when a woman gives birth, if she wants to work from home, unless you have a hard and provable reason she can't work from home, she has to be allowed to work from home. Yeah,

Simone Collins: but if she has t