Does Body Count Really Matter?

Malcolm and Simone have an insightful discussion about how men perceive women's sexual histories and body counts. They talk openly and honestly about the biological and instinctual factors that make many heterosexual men care about a potential partner's number of past partners. Malcolm explains how different types of sexual encounters impact body count perceptions differently, like long-term relationships vs one-night stands. He also discusses how things like OnlyFans, being successful vs unsuccessful, and specific sex acts do or don't count in terms of market value and body count from his perspective. Overall they aim to help women understand these factors that men consider so they can make informed decisions.

Malcolm: [00:00:00] when women are like, yeah, I slept with him, but I didn't have an emotional connection with him. And it's that is a thousand times

Simone: worse. That's, yeah, that almost means you're more likely as, as the male partner to be raising a child that is not yours because apparently they just do not care.

Which is not. Yes.

Malcolm: The, I didn't have an emotion. If, if somebody cheated on me, I would a thousand times prefer they're like, well, I cheated on you because I had a strong emotional connection with him.

Would you like to know more?

Simone: Hello, Malcolm. Hello,

Malcolm: Simone! It is wonderful to be chatting with you today!

Simone: Yeah, so you know, obviously one of my favorite people in the entire world is Ayla. And she does, when she does events, these live Twitter polls. Where she'll like, have people line up based on all sorts of things. You know, how recently did you poop?

Or to our subject today, what is your body count? And I lo that's one of my favorite One's that she, she lines people up about because you really see a very interesting logarithmic scale [00:01:00] when people line up. So it's like zero, like a couple of ones, and then it's two to five, like vast majority of people.

And then it's like 50, 112, 250, 300. Like it's crazy. It just gets like crazy

Malcolm: high. And I'm always at one end of these, obviously the really high end of the scale, but you're always at the really low end of the scale because we're exact opposites in that, you know, you being a virgin when we first met and me being just ridiculously high body count.

I remember recently I learned something new at these events because it wasn't something I had thought about before. I was at one end and usually at the really high end, it's, it's almost all male guys. Yeah. And one of the guys was like, wait, because previously they hadn't done the previous one.

They had one on how heterosexual are you? And I was like, it went the extreme end of heterosexual. No, I

Simone: think it hurts was, was how many different dicks have you had in your mouth? Oh, best of

Malcolm: what? So something like

Simone: that. Yeah.

Malcolm: How few men

Simone: had never had a dick in their mouth? It was like, what on earth? Very rare.

Malcolm: Yeah. So, so one of the [00:02:00] guys turns to me and he goes, wait. It's all heterosexual. And, and then all the other guys who are like at the extreme end of the scale were like, wow, impressive.

Simone: Yeah. So yeah, you also didn't realize is that high body count is often man to man. Yeah.

Malcolm: Yes. And I hadn't considered that.

So, so yeah, I was even probably more extreme than I had considered was in these contexts, but yeah. This is really interesting, because for me, when I met you I, I think it would be really disingenuous for me to pretend that you having a, an incredibly low body count wasn't a huge bonus to me.

And when I went out and would sleep with people, I specialize both in people with low body counts, virgins mostly, because that was just the pathway and the tactics that I was using in the sexuality video that we're not able to post here. But also because I personally found it really gross when I learned that a woman had a high body count.

And I think one of the big problems in our [00:03:00] society, when people talk about do body counts actually matter, It, it breaks down on a few fronts. So conservatives often will use arguments like a key that opens any lock, you know, or a lock that can be opened by any key, you know, and or you wouldn't want to use a shoe that a bunch of other people had used.

Oh yeah. And I think

Simone: Mormons use a chewed gum analogy. Yeah.

Malcolm: And all of these analogies. I don't really think sell the message like I was a young girl and somebody told me one of these analogies You know what? I would think is well times have changed and you're just an old person and you don't know how it is for My generation or that's you know an older mindset or That's not convincing.

To me, if I was a woman and somebody was like, well, you wouldn't want a shoe that a bunch of people had worn. Part of it would be

Simone: like, screw you, I buy like all of my shoes on Poshmark and I rent half of my shoes on Rent the Runway. So go

Malcolm: ahead. And I'd also be like, but why doesn't this apply to [00:04:00] guys?

And then people would be like, because the guy is the one going in the thing. It's the, it's the sword, not the sheath. It's

Simone: the, it's the foot, not the shoe. Right. And,

Malcolm: and the, the answer to that would be, wait, why does that matter? Why would that mean it doesn't matter for guys, but it matters for girls. And then when you talk to progressives about this, this.

inequality, they'll often answer well, it shouldn't, it is unfair that it matters. And therefore it doesn't matter. Or we can build a world in which it doesn't matter. You mean it shouldn't matter. Yeah. Yeah. Which is dumb as well. And so I think we need to have an honest conversation about where the actual costs are involved in this.

The effects it has on women and you know, just for our daughters or, or women listeners, so they can really contextualize this. Because I think the average woman in our society today. Dramatically underestimates how much partner count matters to guys. A great one, you know, speaking of AILA polls that you [00:05:00] had mentioned to me before was one where it was like, would you rather sleep with a hundred women or have your wife sleep with one other person?

And 90 percent or something said they'd rather their wife not sleep with one other person if it meant they could sleep with a hundred

Simone: women. Yeah. It was something along those lines. Basically you know, would you prefer to have a ton of partners and like your wife also slept with a decent number of people or not?

And yeah, apparently men care more about having a committed female partner who does not have a lot of. who does not have a high body count, then they care about body count, which is insane because the assumption, of course, is that men, no matter what, like sort of like number one priority. Is high body count, but no, it's, it seems to be more like high body count, but with low body count women, I guess.

Malcolm: Count women is what you're well. So, it, it

Simone: stands. I don't think they care. I think that it's totally fine to have a one night stand. If you have no commitment with a woman who has a higher body, [00:06:00]

Malcolm: I want to get to the point here because I think that this is just the larger point. If you're