Based Camp: The THOT Police
This was written by AI: In this thoughtful discussion, Malcolm and Simone engage in a deep dive into the phenomena known as "thots" and the Red Pill Community. They discuss the psychological, societal, and relational aspects of these subjects, considering the stereotypes and realities that exist within them. Malcolm and Simone present their unique perspectives on how certain behaviors and actions can influence the narrative context of a relationship, and how individuals adapt within different contexts. Additionally, they delve into the influence of Red Pill ideologies on online communities, offering insights into the perception of "thots" within these spaces. Join us in this enlightening exploration of the complexities of gender dynamics, sexuality, and online communities.Based Camp - The Thot Problem
Malcolm: [00:00:00] What type of woman decides to sign their entire, this one short life they have to being. Submissive to someone else only for attraction to that person. That's a thot, like that's a very definition of a thot, the type of person who would do that. And that's a very narrow psychological profile. Now, this profile can be elicited from most people, men and women.
Malcolm: Like, say, suppose you trained a woman how to be like this aggressive, sexy bombshell who was like very forward and very good at playing men and everything like that. And, and this woman created a whole movement around how to do this, like how to seduce men like this.
Malcolm: And then these women are like, it's all men are simpering, pathetic dogs, right? And you're like, well, no, you are able to bring that personality out of any man because of the mechanisms that you are using to attract those men. [00:01:00] Yes. The systems you are using can attract actually a broad range of men.
Malcolm: But they change those men's personalities within the narrative context of your relationship. Because we do change our personalities in different narrative contexts, the way I act at work is different from the way I act at home. And so if you're creating a persistently similar narrative context, you are going to create a persistently similar person.
Malcolm: hello, Simone. How's it going today? Good. Hi Malcolm. I am excited to be here because today we are going to talk about thots, not intellectually, of course t h o t a hot woman who is vapid, primarily interested in sex. And who is apparently a major problem for communities like the red pill community. And in a lot of these conservative intellectual spaces, [00:02:00] I. There's a heavy emphasis, a a lot of them almost seem to be like a red pill diaspora, where as the men's rights movement of like 20 years ago began to dissipate into like the MGTOWers and the red Pillars and the, the other types of pickup artists type people.
Malcolm: They begin to influence a lot of the culture of new online right-leaning intellectual movements pretty heavily actually, in the same way that sort of the Tumblr feminists ended up influencing a lot of progressive online cultures. Ah, yes, yes. Where this gets really interesting is that thots.
Malcolm: In the real world, the sort of thirsty manipulative of women, like they're not actually a problem. They're, they're not a problem to most men. And so the question is, is why are they perceived as such a problem by the, the red pill diaspora? And I have a theory around [00:03:00] this, so I always found the red bill community really interesting.
Malcolm: I did you, I actually think you used to browse it more than I did. Um, Way more. And they, I think, were fairly accurate in their understanding of female sexuality.
Simone: Well, it was also the first community online where I really encountered a more economic analysis of mm-hmm. Of relationships and dating strategy and sexual strategy, which I think is a far better lens than the typical self-help or romance based analysis.
Simone: Oh,
Malcolm: absolutely. Yeah. And, and, and they were saying things that were, Obviously true that people weren't happy to say, which was things like actually if you look at statistics, the majority of women do prefer men with dark triad traits, like, narcissism and machiavellianism and that if you like, like in terms of
Malcolm: mm-hmm. So I'll use a different word so I won't get demonetized. In terms of [00:04:00] submission and like in a bedroom context, right? That the, the majority, not all, but, but women do differential prefer that. , and also stuff like muscle building. Right. Like, oh, if you, if you get toned and you spend time at the gym, you will be more physically attractive to women.
Malcolm: And through these realizations, they began to be able to pick up more women than they were previously able to pick up. And four young men. That is a major. Problem in life, like in a way that I don't know if women can fully understand just how much consternation this causes young men.
Simone: Well, I think there's another really big factor to like the original traction that the community enjoyed, which is that.
Simone: In general, a big premise of the red pill, et cetera. Community seemed to be that men have been told a lie that being a nice guy to women is not going to get you sex. And that that's just a very misleading and very damaging lie. And here are these [00:05:00] various things you can do to actually. Get sex. And I think to a certain extent those tactics work.
Simone: But also I think part of it was just like encouraging men to be direct and assertive about their desire to have sex with women. Like before I met you, I never encountered a guy who was like clear about his motives. It was just. Like he kind of expected it. It seems like all guys kind of expected women to come onto them somehow.
Simone: Like they were never gonna
Malcolm: see, well, you were dating in San Francisco, right? Yeah. Which I think is, is well this is a community that I think is most inundated with the exact opposite mindset. Mm-hmm. Right.
Simone: But anyway, I feel like that was a major factor of, it was just like the fact that men. We're suddenly being told, oh, guess what?
Simone: Not being assertive, not being direct isn't going to work for you. That even just that basic realization was really meaningful and impactful.
Malcolm: And w I mean, what are your other thoughts on the red pill community if you're [00:06:00] going to have
Simone: more? I, I, I loved the, the pessimism of it. I love like the concept of olt.
Simone: All women are like that, but like, There's this, this, this animosity that I found to be very intriguing and the straw man of women that, that was that was presented was great. I loved the.
Malcolm: The experimentation. They'd have case studies, remember?
Simone: Mm Oh no Field, field reports. Something like that.
Simone: Field, yeah. Field reports. Yeah. The lingo in general was great. I don't know if using Smooth Lingo would get me, like, get us demonetized. Like I, I don't know if I should. Oh yeah, you two probably have refer to the carousel that women would ride.
Malcolm: Oh, well, yeah. But I just mean, I, I bet even like, even if we say the term red pill in the tags here, we're probably gonna get like de-listed.
Malcolm: So we'll see. But no, I, I agree with a lot of what you're saying and I, and I think a community, I'd love to do a separate video on later. It's the MGTOW
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