Based Camp: How Sexuality Really Works

Welcome back to Based Camp with Malcolm and Simone where we dissect different, fascinating aspects of human cognition. Today's episode centers around sexuality and arousal patterns, as well as fetishes that seem strange to many. Malcolm challenges the traditional Kinsey spectrum and offers a groundbreaking new perspective based on arousal to disgust spectrums for specific stimuli. Simone, meanwhile, shares her unusual hobby of exploring NSFW subreddits and trying to understand the various unique kinks and fetishes she discovers. From the "Gone Wild Audio" subreddit to the world of vorarephilia, we dive into a deep discussion about the nature of sexual arousal and how it's often far removed from societal norms or physical realities. This episode might just change the way you think about sexuality.

Transcript:

Malcolm: [00:00:00] .the Kinsey spectrum is just completely nonsense.

Malcolm: It is a really bad mechanism for understanding arousal patterns. The way arousal patterns should really be thought of is as individual arousal to disgust spectrums for specific visual, auditory, or conceptual stimuli.

Malcolm: Now one could be like the concept of, of being eaten, or the concept of farting, or the concept of disgust or some set of visual stimuli, like a large breasts or something like that.

Malcolm: Or secondary sex characteristics of a specific nature. . So what do we mean by this? Cause a lot of people are like, what Disgust isn't part of your sexuality? But if you think about it, what happens when you're aroused by something? You look at it longer, your eyes dilate.

Malcolm: People often take a breath in. What happens when you're disgusted by something, your pupils contract, you instinctively look away from it. You hold your breath. These sound like exactly mirroring reactions, almost as if they're the same system with a negative modifier [00:01:00] reply to it. And then when we started mapping from our data, all of the arousal and disgust things that people have, what we realized pretty quickly, Is something you would find is anything that disgusted a portion of the population would arouse a corresponding smaller portion of the population.

Malcolm: And anything that aroused a portion of the population would disgust another smaller portion of the population. So what it seems we have here is that some part of the developmental life cycle, and this happens much more in males,

Malcolm: and this is where another interesting thing happens that you regularly see. In gay males, which you don't see as much in gay females, and is a very interesting thing to explore and was one of our sort of hints in this is in gay males you will often hear active disgust.

Malcolm: Towards certain female arousal stimuli or, or, or visual stimuli or physical or conceptual stimuli that we associate with women. [00:02:00] And, and so the question is, well, that's weird. Why would they begin to develop disgust around that when you don't actually see that in lesbian communities as often?

Malcolm: So what our data actually showed is if you look at men like anyone would expect, the predominantly arousing thing is. The naked form of either males or females,

Malcolm: but if you look at females, what we actually found is that is not the most arousing thing. It's a close second, but it's not the most arousing thing. The most arousing thing was, submission or dominance. And so what we pointed out there is even the concept of gay or straight, even the concept that our sexualities should be primarily defined by male or female predominant attraction.

Malcolm: Is misogynistic because had women invented the field of sexuality research, they likely would've defined our sexuality as being predominantly dominance or submission based [00:03:00] instead of male or female based. And that the only reason why this wasn't caught earlier, is

Malcolm: because the field is so dominated by identity politics that people can't say, well, let's just throw out all of the identity pol. Like let's pretend like gay straight is just like not an important dichotomy. And look at just like the data, like what are the core things that are arousing different populations.

Simone: Hello, gorgeous. Hello,

Malcolm: Simone. How's it going today?

Simone: Really good. Should I share one of my dirty little secrets with.

Simone: Our followers,

Malcolm: I think they find it a very fun and weird hobby to have.

Simone: Right? Yeah. So whereas other people like research World War II history or learn how to knit, collect Barbies I like to explore N S F W sub subreddits and try to figure out why exactly weird things seem to arouse people because.

Simone: I, I really don't get it. I'm largely asexual, so like, this is fascinating to me. I feel like I'm an alien [00:04:00] exploring another planet and it's amazing. And I thought, I thought I'd seen every separate that it was N F S W. I thought I knew everything, even the really weird things like Sharpies and Anuses, like, you know, I, I thought I'd seen it all.

Simone: And then I'm at this one late night dinner and, and someone brings up gone wild audio. I guess I never checked it out as a subreddit, an N S F W subreddit. It sounds boring. Yeah, it sounds boring. It, it just sounds like, I don't know, people telling sexy stories, and so I'm like, this is lame. Not gonna, and like, who wants to like sit down and listen to something?

Simone: You know, when, when you know, you're like idly exploring stuff online. So it it just like, this person was like, yeah. Gone wild audio. Like I discovered I could orgasm without Without anything or anyone touching me uh, listening to this stuff. And I'm like, okay, so what uh, like what? So immediately I, I go, I go and I, I, I like, dive down this rabbit hole and I am, [00:05:00] my mind is blown because it is.

Simone: It's like taking a theme park ride. You know those haunted house rides where you're like on a little track and you're like going through the haunted house and like, ugh. Like things are like coming out at you. It's like doing that. You're like putting yourself into the body of someone who's having some kind of arousing experience, but these aren't the experiences you would.

Simone: Think necessarily. So like obviously the really popular recordings that have gotten the most dead votes in all time and stuff. Cuz the great way of exploring, you know, weird things on Ns FW is to both see like what is the most popular and what gets the most votes for all time, but also like what's trending, like what weird niche things are, what's controversial.

Simone: So obviously like the vanilla ones are, you know, typically very like mainstream kind of vanilla plots, but like the weird ones are like, You are being assimilated into the Borg and like, you know, you're listening to this audio clip and like you, the listener are like going in some, into some [00:06:00] kind of machine and it's like beep boop, beep boop.

Simone: You are being assimilated. And it's just, it's like what is happening to me? That was a deep cut. I, but I went deep. Cause there are all these different tags, like you can look you in, in gun wild audio.

Simone: You can do M four F, F four, m, M four A. So you're getting a male voice for all audiences, a female voice for male, et cetera. So like, And they have, of course, like lots of tags like rape, non-consent incest like f