Based Camp: How AI Will Alter Class Conflict

In today's discussion, Malcolm and Simone dive deep into the impending impacts of AI on society, particularly on class structure and economic preparedness. They examine how AI is set to radically shift the balance of power between the wealthy and the proletariat, with surprising implications for social mobility.

From exploring how AI could make the lower classes obsolete to forecasting the potential rise of genetically modified, AI-empowered underdogs, this discussion promises a thought-provoking look at our automated future. Simone and Malcolm also touch on the controversy of genetic purity, the dangers of victimhood mentality, and the pitfalls of class struggle narratives.

Join us as we take a unique look at the ways in which AI, genetics, and ideological alliances could shape the future of humanity.

Transcription and above written by an evil AI for SEO. The podcast is meant to be a podcast:They genuinely think the world would be better off without humans. There is no long-term allegiance here. There is nobody buddy. They are our cultural enemies. I can find a way to ally myself with the most religious extremists that has a worldview that is nothing like mine, but at least they wanna prosperous future for their great-grandchildren.

The, when somebody wants the end as a species, you just can't work with them. And the big lie is that there aren't genuine ideological differences. Between people who are outside of this elite cast in society and that at the end of the day it's all paved over because we just want their stuff. It's not, and that's how they've kept us down.

Yeah I would emphasize just how. Common. This is I would say approximately 15% of the people that we speak with. Friends, colleagues, people we respect. Respect, yeah. Yeah. Would say but isn't the world, isn't the universe better off without humans like and genuinely believe that and genuinely be.

Neutral or relatively pleased with a prospect that humanity will cease to exist soon. I think this is a real threat when you think about things like AI alignment or tech advancement in general. When. One would typically hope that everyone working on ai, AI alignment, or AI in general really, really, really cares about the safety of humans.

No, no, No. Yeah. And uh, what was it I've, I've heard from through the, the um, grapevine that one of the top people in the space when they were being told, Hey aren't you genuinely scared about the future of the human species? Their response was, don't be such a human ris. They didn't care. They did not care.

And I think there's a way to frame these people as malevolent, but they're not acting with malevolent intent. They genuinely, philosophically believe there is less suffering with less humans. Let's get rid of them all. You cannot tie this millstone around your neck. If you're looking to make genuine change in society.

You need to accept that even among people of your economic group. There are those that are not your allies.

What I think we will begin to have as society differentiates is more of different social groups that are aligned with each other. Maybe not even by historic cultural backgrounds, and certainly not by ethnic backgrounds, but by ideological similarities.

Sort of an alliance of ideological tribes that understand that they can work together and that their groups are aligned in the long run. Because for so long that we've been in a society of nations and I think between. Network state like effects and AI changing society into one where class structure is much more international and much more stratified.

And I think that this is a really important thing to note here, is that this sort of wealthy class is an internationalist class. They do not care about their country. They do not care about their people they do not care about their religious cohort. Often they only care about uh, this, wealthy class.

And the reason they care about this wealthy class so much is because this wealthy class all has a common interest and preventing themselves from losing the power that they're accumulating. But I think going after them is to some extent, pointless. They simply have more power than us and everyone else right now at an absolutely astronomical scale.

What we need to understand and vi to some extent, this frees them from concerns around us and allows us to work to sharpen ourselves. Outside of their supervision to some extent, so long as we are willing to pack up and leave if they begin to lock things down in certain countries, which is, so let's delve into this a little further.

Hold on. You're saying, the initial statement of the wealthy using AI to free themselves cells from the proletariat. Yes. That happens. But also the proletariat is using AI too, right? Yeah. What does that mean? What, what happens when the proletariat becomes fractured away from the wealthy?

Does this fundamentally change anything? Does it bring us back to a, another place and a cycle between wealthy and non wealthy classes? What does that mean? Especially when they're both very well equipped. Yeah. I love this point because it's the biggest trick and it is the core trick of communism as an ideology class struggle.

And that they convince the idiots to believe everyone who's not wealthy is aligned with each other. Through doing that people who aren't among the elite cast and society millstone themselves to the floor. And what we are seeing in the future is a divide.

Amongst different people within the middle and lower classes of society where people are coming together based on ideological similarities and by ideological similarities, what I mean is what they hope for the future of our species. Do they hope for a prosperous future where everyone does their own share and pulls forwards?

And everyone every day is waking up and asking, how can I make civilization better? How can I make humanity more prosperous? Are they asking how can I build a system that allows me to spend, all day on idle pursuits? And these two groups have nothing in common. And the biggest trick is to convince these two groups that they are on the same team.

They are not on the same team.

And then whatever individuals do well and start to rally people behind them or gather public attention the biggest trick is they'll start to brandish those people as elite.

They'll say, oh, look at this new elite person like they did to us. Look at the elite couple, right? Because they use elite to try to through class warfare, divide people. Divide people from the people who are actually their allies, actually trying to uplift as much of the population as possible.

So your argument is that there never really was a class divide. There was a cultural divide. And often these things correlate with wealth or lack of wealth, but there, that's, they don't often correlate with the lack of wealth or wealth. I would say that it's actually interesting, I do believe that when wealthy people in these groups push this system, they genuinely believe, they believe in it.

If you know the kids of rich people, there is no group that you'll find more communists among. And the question is why does it perform so well in these economic circles? And the reason it performs so well as an ideology in these economic circles is because it is the ideology that best ensures intergenerational wealth transfer.

And thus the families that support it are the families that have maintained intergenerational wealth transfer for more generations.

This happens because as power becomes more bureaucratic, And institutional, it becomes easier to capture within a family. Then is the case when power is just associated with capital, which

Nominally means at least to some slight extent was in any system. That's, barely functioning. It's associated with productivity.

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