Based Camp: Even White Supremacists are Stupid to Support White Nationalism

In this thoughtful discussion, Malcolm and Simone delve into the complex issue of cultural survival, immigration policy, and societal integration. They argue that a culture's ability to resist, convert, and compete is what determines its survival, rather than its isolation. In this context, they question the notion of protecting "weak" cultures that fail to reproduce or withstand competition. They extend the conversation to discuss the nature of immigration in the US, suggesting a skills-based approach for immigrant integration. The discussion further unfolds as they entertain the idea of a global "brain drain" initiative as a strategic offensive maneuver, and conclude by challenging preconceived notions of "Western white culture." Join Malcolm and Simone in this thought-provoking conversation that explores the dynamic intersection of culture, nationalism, and immigration.

Based Camp: The Inhernt Weakness of White Nationalism. Cultures that can't compete in a multi-cultural ecosystem have earned their fate.

Malcolm: [00:00:00] There is no point in protecting very weak cultures.

Malcolm: , cause I do actually some white nationalists listen to our channel, like this is why we care so little about white nationalism,

Malcolm: Even if you do seal yourself off, you'll just die alone. Like Korea In fact, I can't think of any wealthy monocultures or wealthy ethnic states that have high fertility rates, not, not a single one in the world. You look at the countries that are wealthy with the highest fertility rates and they've shown the most resistant to fertility collapse. You're looking at countries like Israel and the United States, which are two of the most diverse wealthy countries.

Malcolm: The rules of the game have completely changed. And when you play by the old system, You lose. Now, where this is relevant to immigration policy in the US

Simone: But what I've also found really interesting is your, essentially your offensive stance on immigration.

Simone: Hello, Malcolm.

Malcolm: Hello, Simone. How's it going?

Simone: I'm enjoying a beautiful overcast day. [00:01:00] It's gorgeous.

Malcolm: I'm enjoying it too. What are we talking about today?

Simone: Immigration, my friend. Immigration.

Malcolm: Yeah. I think that this is a fun one for us to dig into because it's a topic where both of the political party's perspective on this has been shifting a lot recently.

Malcolm: Mm-hmm. And we have a perspective on what should be the conservative position going forward and what made sense as a conservative position historically. Mm-hmm. So historically the conservative position on immigration is, let's.

Malcolm: Prevent immigration, right? Maintain cultural homogeny of a region to prevent any culture within that region from eroding. Mm-hmm. Uh, So that culture can be transmitted well from one generation to future generations. And then if you were going to spread your culture or your ideology, you do it through conquest or through market forces um, or through Manifest destiny.

Malcolm: Well, yeah. I mean obviously there's the manifest destiny way of doing it or, or countries.[00:02:00] Trying to take over their neighbors, but you can also export it through market-based forces. So if you bring another country to a market-based system and you are exporting your culture in a free market of ideas, but you are the dominant cultural force in the world or the wealthiest cultural force, it's very easy to begin to stomp out other cultures with your cultural exports.

Malcolm: But the game has entirely changed now, and that system doesn't make sense anymore, and it doesn't achieve what it used to achieve. So the reason why you would do that historically was so that other groups did not erode your culture. However, there are two big hiccups to that these days. The first being that no matter where you are in the world, Your kids and your community is going to have access to the entire world of cultures online.

Malcolm: Yeah. If they're engaged in any sort of technophilic lifestyle, which means [00:03:00] most lifestyles that allow for high economic output. Mm-hmm. So economically productive individuals are going to be able to see pretty much all of the world's culture and the internet culture is going to be part of their life, wherever they are.

Malcolm: And so the market forces don't matter as much when you're dealing. They do to an extent, but a lot less than they did historically. And maintaining control of your borders matters a lot less when you're talking about cultural erosion. Mm-hmm. The other is that fertility rates are falling all over the world, even within conservative cultures that historically would've just naturally grown had they been left alone.

Malcolm: So if you look at the wealthy countries in the world with the lowest fertility rates, with a few exceptions like Singapore, almost all of them are very culturally homogenous. Obviously. Great example here is South Korea was, was one of the lowest fertility rates of the world, which is basically a monoculture and a mono ethnic state.

Malcolm: In fact, I can't think of any wealthy monocultures or [00:04:00] wealthy ethnic states that have high fertility rates, not, not a single one in the world. You look at the countries that are wealthy with the highest fertility rates and they've shown the most resistant to pro to fertility collapse. You're looking at countries like Israel and the United States, which are two of the most diverse wealthy countries.

Malcolm: So sealing yourself off from the rest of the world because other countries are eroding. Yours doesn't really protect you anymore. And here's where I'm gonna say something that's very offensive. There is no point really in protecting very weak cultures. If a culture today cannot survive in the face of other cultural forces, there is no reason to protect it.

Malcolm: What we can do is look for. Mutations of that culture that do show resistance. If we were looking at a population like at an in ecology and there was like a new pollution in the landscape and it was. Killing almost all of this one species of bunnies. There's no point in saving the [00:05:00] bunnies that are most dying due to this pollution.

Malcolm: You want to look for the iterations of that bunny that are most resistant to the pollution. And at the end of the day, cause I do actually some white nationalists listen to our channel, like this is why we care so little about white nationalism, especially any form of, of I, I could even understand like ethnic groups, like caring about their own kind.

Malcolm: Right. What I can't understand is why I would at all care about a form of nationalism that goes extinct as soon as there's immigrant populations around them. Like that. That's the world of the future, right? Even if you do seal yourself off, you'll just die alone. Like Korea, remind me of Mr.

Malcolm: House from fallout three like talking about how superior he is, and then the moment you go to unseal him from his hermetic pod, he starts like gasping and it's oh no, a single germ will kill me. It's okay, well, like clearly you're not that great a culture. And, and, and this is what really matters is, is that historically if you look at [00:06:00] people with this old cultural mindset, so you look at this in Russia right now, right?

Malcolm: They're like, okay, well we. We need to consolidate people of our cultura