Based Camp: Alt-Right Catgirl Femboys
Episode 22 min 29s

Malcolm and Simone examine if banning pornography positively impacts society, relationships, and mental health. Contrary to assumptions, research shows legalizing porn reduces assault and attitudes viewing women as sex objects. It correlates with happier marriages and less relationship discord. Most downsides link to believing porn is bad, not the material itself. Ultimately restricting porn access worsens outcomes without effectively limiting consumption. They argue conservatives should own male sexuality, not amplify suffering.

Malcolm: [00:00:00] The, Femboy alt right Catgirl. There's a meme around this, And this is where I think that our movement, this new movement was in the conservative party has in many ways become affiliated with cat girls. As yeah, you've got like cat girl Kulag who, we know, we've talked to personally and.

Malcolm: Elon talking about investing in catgirls in that one famous tweet, these are people who I consider very politically aligned with us and both of them have like weirdly talked about catgirls. So what's going on there? Why are they talking about catgirls?

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Simone: Hello, Malcolm.

Malcolm: Hello, Simone! I am so excited for this topic today. When we engage with some other branches of conservatives, one of the things that I think we all agree on is that

Malcolm: sexuality isn't really handling itself well in society today. are a ton of men [00:01:00] and women that are turning to self gratification over real relationships. And this is likely to

Malcolm: expand in the future with AI and stuff like that. One of the responses to this that many people consider is we should ban pornography.

Malcolm: And some countries that are more conservative than us and trying to solve fertility rates have done just that, like South Korea. However, it does not have the effects you would think it would have. And it's generally a really bad idea. Let's talk about why.

Simone: So when we first started writing the Pravda's Guide to Sexuality, we were sure that we would find a lot of information that suggested that porn and masturbation were pretty damaging because. We saw on Reddit at that time, like no fap the subreddit was really big. People were like all about this is damaging me.

Simone: This is really harmful for me. So we're like, wow, this is, people must have looked into this and this must be it fits her

Malcolm: ideology. Like self-control is, oh, good [00:02:00] lack. Yeah. Control

Simone: is bad like that. Yeah. Like you need take a prish approach. Yeah. Yeah. This is, yeah. Don't indulge like that. That must be bad.

Simone: Lo and behold, we were wrong. And, we totally own up to that now. Basically it looks like masturbation in general for both men and women is good. It seems to be correlated with like more sexual empowerment and enjoyment on women's part. seems to reduce stress, improve self esteem, improve body image.

Simone: There's a lot, there's a lot to be said just for masturbation with or without porn. We also say in the pragmatist guide to sexuality, that masturbation may contribute to a decline in many social ills. UCLA researchers found that sex criminals on average consume less porn than the average person.

Simone: And started consuming it at a later age than the average non sex criminal. Take that for what it's worth.

Malcolm: But it's crazier than that. In countries that haven't allowed porn and then started allowing porn, rates of ape you guys can figure out what I mean. I'm trying not to get demonetized here.[00:03:00]

Malcolm: Rights of ape declined precipitously upon the legalization of pornography.

Simone: Yeah. So I can quote from our book on sexuality across nations, more pessimistic at it. Oh, sorry. And I'm going to use the word grape. Okay. Okay. Great. Yeah. Great. Across nations, more. Permissive attitudes toward pornography are correlated with lower rates of grape and less violence against women.

Simone: A great case study of this can be seen with the Czech Republic, where porn was illegal under communism, then legalized when the party fell. This decriminalization of pornography caused, in one year, Grapes to decline over 37% in child abuse of the wrong no, it's all wrong. The child, what abuse fell by about 50% similar results.

Simone: We're seeing where porn laws were loosened in Denmark, Japan, China, and Hong Kong. So talk

Malcolm: about rates of internet expansion. Cause that's also really interesting.

Simone: Yes. For every 10% increase in [00:04:00] internet access. there's a corresponding regional decrease of 7. 3% in grapes, suggesting that the internet and its facilitation of masturbation may provide an outlet for sexual energy that might otherwise cause serious damage.

Malcolm: Consider how correlational that is 10% to a 7% drop a 10% rise in internet access to a 7% drop that 50% drop. So this is one of those things, right? Where it's something that ideologically I can be like, self control is good. This is bad, et cetera. But then I engage with the data and do I want to be one of those people, like the woke, where I throw out the data when it doesn't agree with my. Ideological predilections or do I adapt to the data? And I never want to be that type of person, especially when it leads to children to suffer like that. It was hungry, right? A 50% drop. And it's one of those horrible things a child could [00:05:00] experience.

Malcolm: Yeah. Okay. A 50% drop in that happening.

Simone: Yeah. We would prefer to live in a society in which porn is legal and masturbation is widespread because our children on the streets are going to be safer. Like that, just,

Malcolm: it, No, hold on, so it actually gets more interesting than this. We also found in the book that the negative correlates to porn consumption are almost entirely tied to how much you believe there are going to be negative correlates to porn.

Simone: Yeah, back to our theme of how you contextualize things, influences, whether or not, Exactly, so we'll

Malcolm: try to do this after the episode we recorded where we talk really deeply about how much contextualization we can. Matters to whether or not you experience something like trauma or something else, right?

Malcolm: Which is if you see something as negative you will experience it as negative now in porn This is really interesting because it means that porn has a much more negative effect on religious people's psychology Than it does [00:06:00] on non religious people's psychology or people who don't contextualize it negative psychology that is fascinating to me, but it also means that when people talk about how porn is hurting them, if they are somebody who believes porn will hurt them, they are not lying.

Malcolm: It really does have a panoply of negative effects on them. It just doesn't on the people who don't think it's negative. So in many ways, they're creating their own little nightmare.

Simone: Yeah. of adverse effects. And also, a big theme that comes up with porn that many, like feminists argue is that this is hurting men's perception of women.

Simone: It's causing men to objectify women. It's causing men to see women, especially as like less than human, as just objects of, for pleasuring oneself. But as we say in the pragmatist guide to s

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