Verdict in the James Crumbley case

A jury found James Crumbley, the father of the teenager who killed four students at a Michigan high school in 2021, guilty of four counts of involuntary manslaughter. The trial comes a month after the shooter’s mother was convicted of the same charges. Jean Casarez has reaction to the verdict from the courthouse. And with Haiti on edge and delivery of food and other essentials disrupted, Anderson talks with actor and activist Sean Penn, the co-founder of the aid organization CORE, about what his teams on the ground are seeing. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices