The Decision to Keep Writing After Grief, Illness, or Heartbreak
In this first installment of Margin Notes—a new series on the big decisions writers face—we explore a question many writers quietly carry:
When life falls apart, do you keep writing… or step away?
Jennie Nash is joined by clinical psychologist Dr. Diana Hill, author of Wise Effort, for a conversation about grief, illness, recovery and the psychology of returning to your work. Dr. Hill will help us explore the emotional and cognitive side of a creative life.
Together, we discuss:
* Why “little by little becomes a lot” matters in recovery
* How grief, illness, addiction, or heartbreak reshape your creative capacity
* The two common paths writers take: stepping away vs. writing to survive
* What negativity bias is—and why it gets louder during hard seasons
* When writing supports healing—and when it becomes avoidance
At the heart of this conversation is a simple idea:
You don’t have to return to writing all at once.Sometimes, getting to the “mailbox and back” is enough.
Whether you’re navigating loss or a major life transition, this episode offers a compassionate way back to the page—on your own terms.
Books Mentioned
* Wise Effort by Dr. Diana Hill
* Little by Little Becomes a Lot by Eric Zimmer
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Transcript
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Hi,
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I’m Jenny Nash,
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and you’re listening to the Hashtag AmWriting Podcast,
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the place where we help writers of all kinds play big in your writing life,
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love the process,
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and stick with it long enough to finish what matters most.
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This is Margin Notes,
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a new part of the podcast where we’re talking about the big decisions writers face
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in their work on creative lives.
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I’m here today to talk about
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this idea of recovery from illness or a breakup or a major life transition and how
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you get back to your work.
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And I have with me the most of special guests,
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uh,
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Dr.
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Diana Hill,
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who is my friend and my client and my colleague.
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She’s a clinical psychologist.
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Who’s the author of wise effort, how to focus your genius energy on what matters most.
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And she’s going to help us dig into this.
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Welcome Diana.
Diana (00:00:57):
I am so glad to be here.
Diana (00:00:58):
And another form of recovery, recovery from addiction is another one.
Diana (00:01:02):
Like if people are prioritizing their health and recovery in that way,
Diana (00:01:07):
how do you write through that?
Diana (00:01:09):
So I’m super excited to talk with you because I think I’ve been through every
Diana (00:01:11):
single one of those recoveries in some form or another.
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Well, yeah.
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And we don’t have to get into it, but you have recently been through some big grief.
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You’ve been through all these things in your life.
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So how do you counsel somebody who’s trying to get over something or get through
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something and also doesn’t want to abandon their writing?
Diana (00:01:33):
Well, there’s a great book that’s coming out.
Diana (00:01:36):
We have to mention a book, support our fellow writers by Eric Zimmer.
Diana (00:01:40):
And I always pick books by their titles in some form or another.
Diana (00:01:44):
And so there’s a great, how about this?
Diana (00:01:46):
There’s a great book title coming out, which is Little by Little.
Diana (00:01:49):
becomes a lot.
Diana (00:01:51):
And I think that’s something to remember in recovery.
Diana (00:01:54):
I remember after I had a C-section,
Diana (00:01:57):
I had two C-sections with my kids and the little by little was,
Diana (00:02:01):
you know,
Diana (00:02:01):
first you make it up to the mailbox and back,
Diana (00:02:04):
right?
Diana (00:02:05):
You’re trying to get back to that three mile walk that you used to do,
Diana (00:02:08):
but up to the mailbox and back was pretty darn amazing after you had a C-section to
Diana (00:02:12):
get to that milestone.
Diana (00:02:13):
And when you’re in recovery from something, you need to shift that
Diana (00:02:19):
the expectation to what is a lot.
Diana (00:02:21):
It’s what is a lot in the context of what you are going through.
Diana (00:02:24):
When you’ve had a C-section, a walk to the mailbox is a lot.
Diana (00:02:27):
When you are in recovery from losing a family member,
Diana (00:02:31):
writing 10 minutes in the morning is a lot.
Diana (00:02:34):
And being able to shift that expectation would be the first thing and remembering
Diana (00:02:37):
that little by little becomes a lot.
Diana (00:02:40):
That’s how we grow it.
Diana (00:02:41):
That’s one of the most foundational aspects of habit formation and psychology,
Diana (00:02:45):
And, uh, really is how I do most everything I do little by little.
Diana (00:02:50):
And then sometimes when I have a boost of energy, I do a lot.
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And is that, do you think that that’s true all the time?
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Like,
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does it become more true when something intends happens in your life or is it
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actually true all the time,
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but we don’t quite see it so clearly?
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Yeah.
Diana (00:03:07):
Well,
Diana (00:03:08):
I think it’s all the time,
Diana (00:03:09):
but more so when you’re in recovery,
Diana (00:03:12):
because when you’re in recovery from something,
Diana (00:03:16):
you may get exhausted more easily.
Diana (00:03:19):
You also may have some shifts in the way that you see the world and the way you see
Diana (00:03:25):
yourself that,
Diana (00:03:27):
um,
Diana (00:03:28):
That negativity bias may be extra strong or your threat system may be on extra
Diana (00:03:34):
alert so that you’re a little bit more hypervigilant depending on what kind of
Diana (00:03:38):
thing you’re recovering from.
Diana (00:03:39):
And so in that sense,
Diana (00:03:40):
we do need to dial up the gentleness factor that,
Diana (00:03:44):
you know,
Diana (00:03:44):
other times in your life,
Diana (00:03:45):
you maybe just to brush off the intensity of something.
Diana (00:03:49):
But when you’re in recovery,
Diana (00:03:50):
yeah,
Diana (00:03:50):
you need to be extra focused on little by little becoming a lot.
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Can you explain what you mean by negativity bias, just so our listen
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