NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg

Ukraine shocked the world in 2022 when it fought off Russia’s invasion, defying expectations of its imminent demise. Nearly two years after Russia invaded Ukraine, Kyiv is still hanging on, but world support is slipping for this critical fight for democracy. Putin boasted this month that Ukraine has nothing and even the staunchest Ukraine supporters know their summer counteroffensive failed to achieve its objectives. As NATO Secretary General, Jens Stoltenberg has worked tirelessly to get Ukraine what it needs, and he joins the Christiane from Oslo, Norway. Also on today's show: International Committee of the Red Cross President Mirjana Spoljaric; actor Adam Driver; columnist/author David Brooks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices