Hutchinson unafraid of alienating Trumpers

For former President Donald Trump, the courtroom is the new campaign stop, with his team already trying to spin political gold from an unprecedented federal indictment. As the legal process continues, it puts Trump's Republican rivals for the presidential nomination in an awkward position. Many are trying to tiptoe around the matter, for fear of alienating his massive base. But not former Arkansas Governor Asa Hutchinson, who's said he wants more “courage” from his fellow candidates and joins the program from Washington. Also on today's show: Facebook whistleblower Frances Haugen; journalist Nicholas Kristof & ExcelinEd Senior Policy Fellow Kymyona Burk To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices