Former State Department Appointee Matthew Bartlett

At midnight tonight, USAID puts almost all of its staff on administrative leave. Elon Musk says the agency, which is crucial to the survival of millions of people around the world, is being fed "into the woodchipper." This action would transform the US and its traditional role on the global stage. Matthew Bartlett was appointed to the State Department by President Trump during his first term, and he joins the show from DC. Also on today's show: Oscar-nominated actor Mikey Madison ("Anora"); Jonathan Chait, Staff Writer, The Atlantic Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices