Dr. Céline Gounder on husband Grant Wahl's death

When top soccer journalist Grant Wahl left for Qatar to cover the World Cup in November, his wife, Dr. Céline Gounder, never thought it would be the last time she would see him. The 49-year-old American reporter died suddenly of an aortic aneurism after collapsing in the press box at the end of a match. To add to the tragedy, many on social media falsely blamed Grant’s death on Covid-19 vaccines. Dr. Gounder is an epidemiologist and knows how difficult it is to debunk conspiracy theories. But when the same playbook was used to blame Damar Hamlin’s recent collapse during an NFL game, she says, “the dam broke,” and she decided to write a public essay to try and put an end to the rumors and “refocus attention on Grant’s legacy.” Christiane speaks with Dr. Gounder about how she is managing to channel her grief into purpose in the saddest of circumstances. Also on today's show: US Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg, author Robert Kagan. To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices