Build Your 15-Year Career, with Kiersten and Julien Saunders

#408: When Kiersten and Julian Saunders began dating in 2012, they fell in love quickly, and their relationship felt strong – until they started talking about money.They broke up as a result of their first money conversation.Luckily, they got back together, figured out how to have tough conversations, and paid off $200,000 in debt over the next five years.Then they started thinking about how to hack their careers. They came up with a plan for a 15-year career.Today, they join us on the podcast to talk about the 15-year career framework and how to approach your career - and your finances - in 5 year stints.Timing of discussion points as per October 2022:00:25: Introduction to Kiersten and Julien Saunders02:05: The money conversation that changed everything11:25: Examples of interaction patterns around money discussions12:08: Tactics to continue difficult money conversations16:18: Starting a 15-year career17:48: The focus of the first five years: your financial foundation18:17: Transitioning to the second five years and defining your super power at work18:50: Building your exit plan in the last five years22:57: Thinking about side hustles and the factors of urgency and upside24:29: How does a person know how to make money29:28: Maintaining momentum towards your goals over the 15 year time span31:37: Is it possible to accelerate the 15 year timeline?35:12: Thinking about risk after your career Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.