Eliza Manningham-Buller and Elif Shafak

Harriett Gilbert and her guests - former head of MI5 Eliza Manningham-Buller and Turkish author Elif Shafak - discuss their books by Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie, Alison Lurie and Michael Chabon.

‘Americanah’ by Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie Publisher: Fourth Estate

‘The War Between the Tates’ by Alison Lurie Publisher: Vintage

‘Gentlemen of the Road’ by Michael Chabon Publisher: Sceptre

First broadcast on BBC Radio 4 in November 2014.