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Steve and Norm open with that familiar, slightly surreal feeling of realizing just how much time has passed since the IBM Personal Computer first showed up in 1981. From there, they use that moment as a jumping-off point to talk about how dramatically technology has changed everyday life. What started in the era of giant mainframes eventually became personal computing, and with that shift, technology moved out of specialized institutions and into ordinary workplaces and homes.
As they talk it through, Steve and Norm point out that this change brought huge benefits. Computing became more accessible, information became easier to reach, and whole industries were transformed by the fact that regular people could now use tools that once belonged only to large organizations. But they also make it clear that this progress came with tradeoffs. The same technology that makes life easier and more connected has also created serious problems around security, privacy, and how much of our personal data we give away in exchange for convenience.
That leads them into a broader warning: it’s easy to get swept up in what technology can do for us without thinking enough about the risks. Steve and Norm encourage listeners to enjoy the benefits of modern tools, but not to lose sight of the vulnerabilities that come with them. Their point isn’t that progress is bad, but that it should be approached with open eyes.
The conversation then widens into politics, where they draw a parallel between changes in technology and changes in the political world. In particular, they look at the Democratic Socialists of America and the influence that movement has had on the Democratic Party. Steve and Norm frame this as part of a larger ideological shift in modern political discourse, and they argue that the relationship between technology, power, and political ideas deserves close attention because it will help shape the future of democratic government.
Stephen Palmer is the Managing Partner for the law firm, Palmer Legal Defense. He has specialized almost exclusively in criminal defense for over 26 years. Steve is also a partner in Criminal Defense Consultants, a firm focused wholly on helping criminal defense attorneys design winning strategies for their clients.
Norm Murdock is an automobile racing driver and owner of a high-performance and restoration car parts company. He earned undergraduate degrees in literature and journalism and graduated with a Juris Doctor from the University of Cincinnati College of Law in 1985. He worked in the IT industry for two years before launching a career in government relations in Columbus, Ohio. Norm has assisted clients in the Transportation, Education, Healthcare, and Public Infrastructure sectors.
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Recorded at the 511 Studios, in the Brewery District in downtown Columbus, OH.