9to5Mac Overtime 082: Origins of the Apple Store w/ special guest Ron Johnson

Former Apple SVP of Retail Ron Johnson joins Overtime to discuss his new book, Shop Different: How Retail Revealed Apple's Genius. Ron talks about the early days of the Apple Store, what it was like collaborating with Steve Jobs, the launch of the original iPhone, why he left Apple to be CEO of JCPenney, where he thinks Apple retail stands today, and, of course, his take on the iPhone Duo. Sponsored by Bitwarden: Register for the free, virtual Open Source Security Summit on September 17, featuring cybersecurity leaders David Sanger and Joseph Menn — and check out Bitwarden for trusted open source password, passkey, and secrets management, with end-to-end encryption and seamless autofill across all your devices. 9to5Mac Overtime is a weekly video-first podcast exploring fun and interesting observations in the Apple ecosystem, featuring 9to5Mac’s Fernando Silva & Jeff Benjamin. Subscribe to Overtime via Apple Podcasts and our YouTube channel for more. Links Preorder Shop Different on Amazon Hosts Fernando Silva Jeff Benjamin Subscribe 9to5Mac Overtime on Apple Podcasts 9to5Mac on YouTube 9to5Mac on YouTube membership with bonus perks