Show full transcript 0:51 as good as candy. 0:52 Head to glowgummies.com, that's G-L-O-W gummies.com 0:57 and use code podcast 20 for 20% off. 1:00 Welcome to the Megan Kelly Show, 1:02 live on SiriusXM Channel 111 every weekday at least. 1:12 Hey everyone, I'm Megan Kelly. 1:14 Welcome to the Megan Kelly Show and happy Tuesday. 1:16 Man, we have a lot to get to today. 1:17 I don't know if you can see this on my desk, 1:19 but like the piles of stories that I wanna go through 1:23 and they're all fascinating. 1:25 I have to say, the news cycle is juicy for lack of a better term today. 1:31 In a little while, we're gonna be joined by Andy Noe. 1:34 He's an independent journalist. 1:35 He's going to talk about his new book on a trans death cult. 1:38 Probably haven't heard about this in the mainstream media, plus there is more to cover 1:43 on the Cornell 8 case. 1:45 We did a little dive into the history of the sex podcaster. 1:50 You know, the one who's so confused as to how we could be in this place 10 years after 1:56 me too and wait until you hear what we have found. 2:00 Honestly, it is actually too graphic to air on a show like this where we are not whores. 2:10 We don't take money for x-rated talk to our audience, nor does anybody tune into 2:17 this program expecting to hear such a thing. 2:20 But I am going to play you a couple of eggsurps with a viewer warning and you absolutely need 2:25 to hide the children because I have an answer for this woman on how we got here. 2:31 And it's going to require a mirror for her and other leftists like her who promote the 2:38 most irresponsible messaging possible to young women. 2:42 and then when those young women fall into trouble, 2:47 they scram, they run for the hills. 2:50 And who do they blame? 2:52 Themselves? 2:53 No, the men, all of the men, 2:56 the men who believe these women are into the three sums 3:01 or the four sums or whatever the hell else 3:04 Alex Cooper has been promoting for years now 3:07 as she's bolstered by people like Kamala Harris 3:10 and Michelle Obama as some sort of a female empowerment example? 3:15 I don't think so. 3:16 The answer's no. 3:19 Also today, President Trump's new press secretary held her first very brief, briefing, didn't 3:26 go particularly well, but it was fine. 3:28 It was fine. 3:29 The mainstream press is completely hammering this young woman, and they're just so nasty. 3:33 This same crowd that told us that Corrine Jean-Pierre was the second coming, that 3:38 that she was basically Winston Churchill has now got thoughts 3:41 on how the new press secretary isn't quite up to snuff 3:44 on her first 15 minutes in front of them at the mics. 3:48 I mean, maybe we could give her like 20 minutes. 3:51 Could we give her 20 before we pronounce her 3:54 the worst ever and incompetent and unable to do the job? 3:58 I don't know this gal. 3:59 I don't know whether she is unable to do the job. 4:01 I know 15 minutes is not enough to make an assessment 4:04 and people are damn nasty. 4:06 They're nasty because she's blonde, she's pretty, she's a Trump fan. 4:12 You could say sycophant, I would accept that based on what I've read about her. 4:15 Who cares? 4:17 Do you think Kareem Jean-Pierre wasn't a sycophant about Joe Biden? 4:21 Please spare me. 4:23 She absolutely was, never mind Jen Psaki. 4:26 Did Jen Psaki ever tell us one word of truth? 4:30 No, she ran cover for Joe Biden for all the time she was at that lectern. 4:33 And so I don't really wanna hear it on these people who are upset that this woman seems 4:38 to be more of a Trump fan than she does an independent journalist. 4:42 That's not how you get that job. 4:44 You're not there to tell the truth, please stop it, Pollyanna's. 4:48 You're there to spin the media into reporting the best possible version of the president's 4:53 agenda that you can get them to. 4:56 And it's their job to be defensive against your manipulation and depress you and to 5:03 look for real answers for the American, but that's how the system works, because stop getting 5:07 your panties in a bunch, because it seems she's a huge fan of President Trump and has 5:13 never said a bad word about him. 5:15 This president wouldn't hire somebody for that position, probably, who had. 5:21 I mean, the reports are that that's why it took a while, because he kept finding people 5:24 who had been ripping on him. 5:25 I have trouble believing that, to be honest, because J.D. Vance had some very, very 5:30 negative things about President Trump and he's the vice president under Donald Trump. 5:34 So I don't know. 5:35 It doesn't matter. 5:36 Who cares? 5:36 The point is she needs a minute. 5:39 She did seem nervous. 5:40 We'll talk about it. 5:41 I'm going to get into all of that. 5:44 Veterans Day is coming up and Birch Gold Group is commemorating it with something I think 5:48 you're going to really appreciate. 5:50 From now through October 30th, for every $10,000 you purchase from Birch Gold, 5:55 you get a free patriotic silver round. 5:58 and there's no limit on how many you can earn. 6:00 Birch Gold can help you convert your existing 6:02 retirement savings into a gold IRA account 6:06 without spending a dime in taxes or penalties, 6:09 and you can even do it in whole or in part. 6:12 For current and former military, 6:13 they will waive fees on the entire first year 6:16 on purchases of any amount. 6:18 Birch Gold has earned an A plus rating 6:21 with the Better Business Bureau 6:22 and served tens of thousands of customers, 6:24 including our listeners and viewers who love Birch. 6:26 Text MK to 989898 for a free info kit and to claim eligibility for your free silver on 6:33 a qualifying purchase before October 30th. 6:35 That's MK to the number 989898, do it today. 6:40 We're going to start today with Ilan Omar because it appears to me that this woman 6:46 may be in some serious legal trouble. 6:49 And while the left would like you to believe that this is just a witch hunt, it's basically 6:53 the equivalent of the witch hunt that was unleashed on Donald Trump. 6:57 That is not true. 6:59 Ilan Omar genuinely does appear to have behaved in a way that may have crossed more than one 7:08 line legally. 7:10 And now we're getting some more details about the whole situation with the brother slash 7:16 husband. 7:17 I mean, she had a husband, last name, Elmi, E-L-M-I, who she was married to, at least in 7:27 the eyes of the law. 7:28 The law may not have known that he was her brother. 7:31 She denies that he was her brother, is her brother. 7:35 I don't think I believe her. 7:37 I don't believe her. 7:38 Many people don't believe her. 7:40 I think she married her brother to get him in here and to avoid too much immigration 7:46 scrutiny. 7:46 And if she did that, she committed a felony and she's in a lot, a lot of trouble, a lot 7:50 of trouble. 7:50 The feds raided her home yesterday morning in Washington DC, pulling documents and who 7:56 knows what else. 7:58 They did not raid her home in Minnesota. 8:00 We don't know why. 8:01 Could be they couldn't get a judge to sign off on a warrant because Minnesota, or it 8:06 could be some other reason that I don't know. 8:10 But they did raid the home in Washington DC. 8:12 And honestly, they can continue this farce for as long as they want. 8:16 But if this guy's her brother, they're gonna figure that out. 8:19 You tell me, if you were accused of marrying your brother and committing immigration fraud 8:24 and you had not married your brother, wouldn't you just submit a DNA test? 8:29 I mean, this isn't Breitbart calling and asking if she married her brother. 8:34 This is the federal government saying you committed immigration fraud and you can 8:40 You can completely exonerate yourself if you prove to us that wasn't your brother. 8:45 All you do is get a cheek swab from him and from you. 8:48 Very very simple. 8:50 Any one of these DNA companies could do it. 8:55 We won't need that because we have the FBI in Quantico. 8:57 They'll figure it out in about two minutes. 9:00 So we are going to know, if that's the basis for this criminal probe, we are 9:05 going to know and we are going to know quickly and she will not be able to defend if in fact 9:12 she married her blood relative and claimed he wasn't. 9:17 So that's very interesting. 9:18 Now, we have pulled some of the facts around the marriage to the guy who's allegedly 9:28 her brother. 9:29 And I want to say there's a couple of different things here, okay? 9:31 because she also was subjected to a campaign finance probe that began under Joe Biden. 9:42 And we don't know whether this whole thing relates to that. 9:47 We just don't know why the feds raided her house. 9:53 But we're gonna find out. 9:56 And here is what we know about the alleged marriage to the brother. 10:01 All right, we're going to go to the reporting of Scott Johnson. 10:04 He wrote for City Journal, and this is what he reported. 10:12 He said that, this is years ago, where did the marriage rumors originate from? 10:19 And he reported the following. 10:21 This is the guy, as far as we can tell, who broke this whole thing. 10:24 A posting on Somali Spot Discussion Board alleged that Omar had married the man touted 10:29 as her husband in 2002 before marrying her brother. 10:34 We told you about this yesterday. 10:35 She had a religious ceremony in 2002 with this guy whose last name was Hersey. 10:40 And then she had her three kids with him. 10:42 But then she had a legal civil ceremony to get married. 10:46 The first one wasn't valid in the eyes of the law to this guy, Elmi, E-L-M-I, a few 10:52 years later, and Elmi is the alleged brother. 10:57 So there was this, the religious ceremony in 2002 to the guy who was the father of, would 11:02 become the father of her three children. 11:04 Then in 2009, there was a legal civil ceremony to the guy we think may be her brother. 11:12 She denies, which I mentioned. 11:15 The post that journalist Scott Johnson saw on Somali Spot, which she'd been tipped 11:20 off to, he wrote, seems to have been withdrawn by someone from Minneapolis's Somali community. 11:27 not withdrawn, written, but it was then quickly deleted. 11:31 By the time it came to my attention, 11:32 he writes the post was only available 11:34 via a Google cache, also now deleted. 11:38 Now he said he reached out to the Omar team 11:43 to ask whether she had married her brother. 11:46 And what the story was, 11:48 he submitted written questions 11:49 to representatives of the Omar campaign, 11:51 citing the Somali spot post 11:52 and asking whether her second marriage 11:54 had been entered into with her brother. 11:55 her, for dishonest purposes, meaning to avoid the immigration laws. 12:00 That same afternoon, I received a message from Omar's press contact indicating the 12:04 campaign would get back to me, but didn't. 12:07 But I did receive a response from a Minneapolis criminal defense attorney, Jean Brandl. 12:13 It provided no answer to my question and implied that the question itself evidenced 12:17 bigotry against Omar and her candidacy for public office. 12:21 Now honestly, it's very easy to answer this question. 12:25 You, you just say, I didn't marry my brother, I deny that. 12:28 And if you print that I married my brother, I'm going to sue you for defamation. 12:32 And you're going to look very foolish when I submit a blood test, proving that you lied 12:36 and you behaved recklessly in printing this. 12:39 And that's what you would do if you were wrongly accused of marrying your brother, 12:44 isn't it? 12:45 Anybody who printed that you had married your brother would be on the wrong end of 12:49 a very, very evil, angry, I should say, lawsuit claiming you are evil and slapping you with 12:57 a multi-million dollar damages demand. 13:02 That's never happened. 13:04 She has not sued anybody who has alleged this about her, at least that we know of and it 13:09 would have made news. 13:11 And as I pointed out to you yesterday, when the Minneapolis Star Tribune, which has been 13:16 running cover for Democrats for decades, especially for Tim Walsh and his trans agenda, when they 13:23 took a deep dive into whether Ilan Omar had married her brother in 2019, they published 13:29 the following. 13:31 We could find little publicly available information about Elmi, that's the brother, 13:37 alleged brother. 13:38 The search of records could neither conclusively confirm nor rebut the allegation that he 13:44 He is Ilan Omar's sibling. 13:48 Then they wrote about trying to reach Omar's spokesperson, Jeremy Slevin, about the issue. 13:54 They said he issued a statement on Friday, again, this is back in 2019, asserting that 13:59 the questions about her personal life are illegitimate. 14:02 Here we go again. 14:03 What happened to the reporter Scott Johnson? 14:06 He was told by a defense attorney, sacked on him by the Omar campaign, that the 14:12 The question itself evidenced bigotry against Omar. 14:15 Now we have the Minneapolis Star Tribune three years later that's got Johnson report 14:20 was 2016. 14:21 Now this is 2019 and the Minneapolis Star Tribune is taking a hard look. 14:25 And what are they told? 14:27 These questions are illegitimate quote. 14:29 Since before she was elected to office, Ilan has been a subject of conspiracy theories 14:33 and false accusations about her personal life emboldened by a president who openly 14:37 treats immigrants, refugees and Muslims as invaders. 14:40 these attacks often stem from the presumption that Ilan, 14:44 like others who share these identities, 14:46 is somehow illegitimate or not fully American. 14:50 Well, that's not exactly a denial. 14:53 But it is somebody pretending to be super angry 14:56 that you're even asking Minneapolis, Starchibune. 15:01 The Starchibune was not able to confirm or deny, 15:06 I dispute disprove that she had married her brother and did point out that the Star Tribune 15:14 had had sought to authenticate some of the most egregious allegations using public records 15:19 and available social media posts and yet couldn't do it one way or the other. 15:24 Now back to the report by Scott Johnson a few years earlier. 15:30 He raises reporting by alpha news. 15:33 You guys remember alpha news, right? 15:35 They've done great reporting in Minnesota. 15:37 It's a Minnesota based news organization that's more fair and balanced. 15:41 It's not in the tank for Republicans, but it doesn't hate them either and will do fair 15:45 reporting on conservative issues. 15:47 You can trust them. 15:49 And they were very, very fair when the George Floyd thing happened. 15:54 They were honest about what happened at the police precinct. 15:57 I mean, they've been great, Alpha News is great. 15:59 Right. 16:00 So Alpha News reported a woman named Preya Samsandhar. 16:08 She's the local reporter writing for Alpha. 16:10 This is as of 2016, and that Scott Johnson report had found information suggesting that 16:15 Elmi is indeed her brother, quoting here, Omar's own Instagram photos from the summer 16:21 of 2015 place her in London with relatives. 16:26 and with a man later identified as Ahmed Nur Said Elmi, soon after her marital history 16:35 became an issue, however, Omar closed that Instagram account to the public. When the 16:41 account became public again, the reporter, Sam Sundar, found that the original photo 16:46 collage of Omar and Elmi was no longer there. Clearly Omar had taken it down. 16:55 Some, Sam Sundar also discovered that accounts once connected to Almi had disappeared since 17:03 the controversy over whether this guy was her brother began. 17:07 Even LinkedIn pages and Almi's professional portfolio pages have gone missing. 17:14 New accounts for Almi have appeared under a different name and without his identifying 17:20 photo. 17:21 So, based on her reporting, Sam Siddhar believes that Omar's siblings include Ahmed Noor Saeed 17:28 Elmi and Muhammad Noor Saeed Elmi, both residents now of the United Kingdom. 17:34 Their social media accounts have referred to Omar as their sister. 17:39 Sam Siddhar found comments imposed by Omar and Elmi showing an intimate relationship. 17:46 Now we don't know, I don't think they mean sexual, like a very close relationship, 17:50 they appear to mean, even after their supposed marital split, Sam Sundar put it to me this way, 17:57 right, Scott Johnson? I think social media proves without a doubt that there is a familiar, 18:03 familial relationship that is not that of a husband and wife. So that's the story, my friends, 18:12 on the husband slash brother. 18:16 And by the way, I should tell you that the man she married was Ahmed Noor Saeed Elmi. 18:25 That's who she married in 2009, Ahmed Noor Saeed Elmi. 18:29 And Sam Sundar, the woman who writes for Alpha News, believes that her Omar siblings 18:34 include Ahmed Noor Saeed Elmi and Muhammad Noor Saeed Elmi. 18:39 There is an Ahmed Noor Sayeed Elmi who lives in the UK and she reported that his social 18:46 media accounts referred to Omar as his sister. 18:49 Okay, so she appears to have a brother named Ahmed Noor Sayeed Elmi, oh, and also a husband 18:56 by that name. 19:00 Oh, what, whoops. 19:02 Is Doug secretly named Pete Kelly? 19:05 Okay, then no, he's not my brother. 19:07 I'm good. 19:08 This is so ridiculous. 19:11 I mean, it's ridiculous in that it seems quite clear she did it. 19:15 And we've been like screwing around with this, not, not doing anything about it for how many 19:19 years now. 19:20 And now the left is all like, this is hard. 19:22 The raid. 19:23 It's the same as the raid at Mar-a-Lago. 19:25 How dare they harass her? 19:26 Why haven't you fucking married her brother? 19:28 That's how it looks. 19:30 And broke immigration laws, allegedly. 19:33 Really that's how they got the warrant, we think. 19:37 Now it could be a different matter, which I want to hit on before we leave the subject 19:42 of Ilan Omar. 19:44 The New York Times in January of this year, 2026 reported the following that Joe Biden's 19:52 DOJ opened an investigation into representative Ilan Omar in 2024 to scrutinize her finances, 20:01 policies, campaign spending, and interactions with a foreign citizen. 20:06 The inquiry initiated by the U.S. Attorney's Office in Washington, D.C. and the Department's 20:11 Public Integrity Unit in June of 2024 appears to have stalled for lack of evidence, reported 20:18 the Times. 20:20 This is again from January 2026. 20:22 Or did it? 20:24 Did it stall for lack of evidence? 20:26 Truly, query whether Joe Biden's DOJ was thirsty to track down Elon Omar's misdeeds in the 20:34 way they were Donald Trump's. 20:38 The investigation appeared to be thrust into the public spotlight on Monday when President 20:43 Trump blindsided department officials by posting about it on Truth Social, singling out 20:48 Ms. Omar. 20:48 It was part of a rambling statement announcing a shakeup of the team overseeing immigration 20:52 raids in Ms. Omar's Minneapolis district that misspelled her name. 20:55 This is what Trump had posted the DOJ in Congress are looking at Congresswoman Ilhan Omar who left Somalia with nothing 21:01 And is now reportedly worth more than forty four million dollars time will tell all 21:07 It was not clear whether mr. Trump was referring to another investigation altogether or how he arrived at the forty four million dollar figure 21:14 Republicans have threatened to open an investigation Omar and a parent effort to tie her to the Minnesota fraud scandal 21:21 that has revealed evidence that some members of the Somali community set up companies that build 21:25 state agencies for social services that were never provided. That's another possibility. I mean, 21:31 that's her community. Does she have any role? Some role whatsoever in the Minnesota Somali 21:36 fraud scandal? No idea. No evidence has yet been produced showing that Ms. Omar was connected 21:43 to the fraud scheme, reported The Times. A spokesperson for her office said they had 21:49 received no official inquiries from the oversight committee of the house or DOJ. 21:54 So there's that about, you know, could there be a Somali, Somali connection to the Minnesota 22:02 community or you heard the reference to the 2024, I think what that 2024 case was looking 22:08 at, it could have been the Somali thing because that that's been going on for a 22:13 while, though it wasn't as well publicized until this past year, or it could be something 22:18 having to do with actual campaign finances because she was also accused, this is just the third 22:25 thing I'm going to tell you, of misusing her campaign finance money to resolve certain personal 22:37 finance issues like she used it to cover legal costs from her divorce from Elmi. 22:46 So, in other words, the allegation in this Star Tribune piece in 2019 was that a Republican 22:53 lawmaker had accused her of using cash from her state house campaign to cover legal costs 22:59 from her divorce from her brother, I mean, her husband, Elmi. 23:04 I'm British national. 23:05 She had legally married in 29. 23:07 The Minnesota Campaign Finance and Public Disclosure Board cleared her in the divorce 23:11 case, but the probe determined that campaign money was used for unrelated legal services 23:18 pertaining to her joint tax filings with the other husband, the one she had the three kids 23:25 with. 23:25 She was ordered to reimburse 1500 and legal fees and to correct her tax returns. 23:31 So here's where it stands. 23:33 She was, it appears, credibly accused of misusing campaign donations on private expenses. 23:42 She had to pay a fee and she had to revise her taxes. 23:46 She was also under a DOJ probe after the fact as of 2024, that was 2019. 23:54 Was it related to the Somali fraud in Minnesota? 23:57 soda, we don't know the New York Times article and the Trump tweet say precious little. 24:03 The next thing we know, we have a raid at her house in Washington DC and I've just refreshed 24:10 for you the reporting over the years about whether it has to do with immigration fraud. 24:15 So all of this is a long way of telling you we don't know what's going on. 24:20 But do not believe the people who are saying this is a Trump witch hunt. 24:25 Trump. 24:25 This is a Trump administration and Biden administration witch hunt. 24:30 And indeed, there may be a witch. 24:32 I don't know. 24:33 If she married a brother, so he could get here lawfully and spend five years in the United 24:39 States without a visa, the proper visa, she's gonna be in trouble. 24:44 She's gonna be in trouble. 24:45 And we wait to see what, if anything, they have. 24:50 Here's Trump, who weighed in on it yesterday in Sot 8. 24:53 Well, I understand they're looking at her very carefully. 24:58 I've always found it to be totally crooked personally, but that has nothing to do with 25:02 me. 25:03 I think she's a terrible person, just a complainer. 25:06 She comes from a country that is a non-country, and then she comes over here and she complains 25:13 about our constitution. 25:14 I think she's a terrible person, but that's really up to the DOJ, I have nothing to 25:19 do with it. 25:21 Okay, so we shall see. 25:24 I believe he didn't have anything to do with it because, you know, he sent out that tweet 25:28 in January, but he's been pretty quiet. 25:30 And I think President Trump is thinking about a lot of other things right now, a lot of 25:34 much bigger problems than Ilan Omar. 25:37 So I am looking forward to seeing how this concludes because once and for all, we should 25:44 know. 25:44 We should know whether she married her brother. 25:46 Remember when Bernie Carrick didn't get a top job in, was it the Bush administration? 25:53 Because he had an illegal working as a nanny allegedly or a housekeeper for him. 26:00 But you can marry your brother to get him into the country for free and nobody cares. 26:05 I mean like, I think maybe people will care if that's what happened here. 26:10 Stand by. 26:11 Have to wait and see. 26:12 Okay. 26:13 Moving on. 26:13 Yeah, the new press secretary is named Katie Zacharia. 26:19 And she had her first outing today, it didn't go particularly well. 26:24 I'll tell you who she is, it wasn't a disaster, but it wasn't like impressive. 26:29 She is a communications advisor was to the Trump media and technology group, which runs 26:37 his social network, Truth Social. 26:39 She worked briefly at Department of Homeland Security as a spokeswoman for then-Secretary 26:45 Kristi Noem. 26:46 She is the sixth press secretary under President Trump, if you count term one and term two. 26:51 She's the fifth woman to hold the position. 26:54 Our pal, Sean Spicer, was the only guy to hold it under Trump. 26:58 Scare Mucci was comms director, not press secretary. 27:02 And I'll give you a little flavor for how this went. 27:06 this is this is what's look can we play the first comments she said when she got 27:12 up there day Deb good morning I am so honored to work for President Trump and 27:24 the American people as a new White House press secretary I want to thank 27:30 President Trump for his trust that he has placed in me I have wanted to work for 27:38 him for a very long time I'm looking forward to working with each of you as 27:44 well especially as we are in the middle of the midterm blitz with energy and 27:51 excitement never seen before in the history of midterms thanks to 27:56 President Trump. 27:58 Okay, I mean, it was fine. 28:02 Part of that is the look. 28:04 She's got very heavy makeup on. 28:07 She's got the long curls. 28:08 She's got some chest showing with the tight. 28:11 I think she needs to dial it back. 28:13 I'm just gonna say, I know she's 28:15 auditioning for a job on Fox News. 28:17 They all are. 28:19 Look at Dana Parino. 28:20 She was too. 28:21 It's been a long line of Republican press secretaries 28:24 whose real goal is to wind up on Fox News. 28:26 I get it, but Roger Ailes will be the first to tell you when you are in a job in which 28:33 you need to be taken seriously, you need to present as a serious person. 28:37 And then I would say once she's earned the respect of the public and the press corps, 28:44 she can sauce it up if she wants. 28:46 She'll have a greater ability to do that and to be taken seriously. 28:49 But right now, we don't know you and your first impressions are important and you should 28:55 be the consummate professional in your presentation, which means dialing back the makeup, dialing 29:01 back the over the top curls in the hair and maybe covering up, covering up a little bit 29:06 more underneath that suit jacket. 29:08 You're not there to turn anybody on. 29:11 You're there to look like a professional. 29:13 And by the way, it's advice I've given to other officials, cabinet officials and others 29:20 in the Trump administration. 29:21 And I think some of them took me advice and were very well served by it. 29:25 Obviously, I have no problem with glam makeup or hair, not today, I don't really have any. 29:30 But in general, I have no problem with it. 29:32 But I do think you have to earn it. 29:34 And she hasn't yet, so dial it back, 20% less makeup, the sparkly eye shadow, like 29:41 just dial it back and you'll get there with the American people if you are smart and credible. 29:47 Okay. 29:48 So a little stumbly because she was nervous, which you could hear in SOT 2. 29:53 The second question for you, if I may, a personal question. 29:57 Your family is in California. 29:59 Your husband, you have four children. 30:02 I'm wondering how you manage, how are you going to manage that? 30:05 Caroline Leavitt left because she wanted to spend more time with her family. 30:08 And also, did she give you any advice on how to handle this job and the people in this room? 30:14 Well, first of all, I want to give my husband an amazing shout out. We have four kids 30:19 ranging from 12, 10, 8 and 6. Three of them are boys, so we have a handful. And I adore my family. 30:26 I love them. They are my priority. I love being with my kids. The idea of not spending 30:32 Evening evenings with my kids, kids are is completely unacceptable. 30:37 So my president, excuse me, my husband, that's a good one. 30:43 All right, so she's getting creamed for that stumbling mess of an answer. 30:48 But she's nervous. 30:50 She's not like, I know you can make the case though, she shouldn't be the press secretary 30:53 then if she gets nervous in front of the cameras. 30:55 But she'll get there, trust me, talking live on camera is not as easy as it 31:02 looks for most people. 31:04 And she doesn't seem to have a ton of experience doing it. 31:07 I think she was probably hired because she's attractive 31:10 and she must have done a decent job 31:13 behind the scenes at Truth Social 31:14 and Trump was favorably impressed by her. 31:18 And believed that with time she could get there 31:21 but she's clearly not there yet but give her some time. 31:25 You know, the thing that's really galling me 31:27 me, is the people who are most brutal toward her today are the very same people who truly 31:35 wanted us to believe that Karine Jean-Pierre was one of the great orders of our time. 31:42 No, not true. 31:44 And by the way, she never grew into the job. 31:47 Karine Jean-Pierre read from that stupid notebook every time she got up there and 31:54 could not speak contemporary, extemporaneously. 31:56 Honestly. 31:57 And let me tell you what this gal was doing today, Katie. 32:03 She was trying to develop that skill. 32:07 She did look down at her notes a fair amount. 32:08 That's fine. 32:09 But she was trying to speak off the cuff and she wasn't very good at it, but she's 32:15 going to get better. 32:16 And the only way to get better at speaking off the cuff is to do it and stumble and 32:21 maybe sound a little silly the first few times you've tried it. 32:24 But if she is still at this job a year from now, 32:27 she's gonna be way better at it. 32:29 And there's really no short, you know, 32:32 short cutting that journey from A to Z. 32:36 So I wish her well, 32:37 and I actually am very open-minded to her improving. 32:40 Then I think the mainstream media should STF you. 32:44 I mean, we literally have Brian Stelter out there 32:46 ripping this girl. 32:46 Would you please stop? 32:48 It's a miracle anybody ever let you on TV at all. 32:51 You know that. 32:52 You only got put on TV 32:54 Maybe because you wrote that stupid newsletter that wrote up people's ratings and therefore 32:59 you got some notice, but you know nothing. 33:01 You were never a doer. 33:02 You were always a watcher. 33:04 You were always a sideline man. 33:06 That's what's so sad about these media critics. 33:08 You've never done. 33:09 You've only watched. 33:10 You've got lots of criticism from the cheap seats and now he wants to weigh in on the 33:15 job she's doing as White House Press Secretary. 33:17 Please be quiet. 33:18 Please be quiet. 33:19 We'll let you know when we want to hear from you and it will probably have to 33:23 do with something completely other than a Trump press secretary. 33:28 No one wants to hear your opinions on her. 33:30 All right, one other thing, she did make some news while she was standing up there today. 33:36 She made news that Kimberly Guilfoyle has been asked to step down as our ambassador 33:42 to Greece. 33:44 It wasn't a huge surprise. 33:46 If you listen to AM Update this morning, you heard that President Trump yesterday said, 33:50 that I'm not happy and when asked if he was gonna fire her, 33:57 are you thinking about it, he said, yeah. 33:59 And so on the heels of that, we got news today 34:03 that via Katie that they had asked her to, 34:08 oh, we have it, okay, let's watch it. 34:10 We have asked Ambassador Guilfoyle to resign. 34:14 She has been a wonderful asset to the team 34:16 and we wish her well. 34:20 There they go. 34:21 So, they've asked her to step down, and now we have the ex-post by Kimberly that reads, 34:29 serving as United States Ambassador to Greece has been the honor of a lifetime. 34:32 I'll forever be grateful to President Donald J. Trump and Marco Rubio for entrusting me 34:36 with the extraordinary privilege, blah, blah, blah. 34:38 For my first day as ambassador, I've worked tirelessly to advance Trump's agenda, blah, 34:43 blah, blah. 34:44 We've done all these wonderful things. 34:46 I'm so proud of everything. 34:47 These accomplishments are a testament to the president's bold leadership. 34:51 All right, here we go. 34:53 I also want to address the recent allegations against me. 34:55 They're false and I intend to vigorously defend my name, my reputation, my integrity. 34:59 I've dedicated my professional life to fighting for justice, standing up for what's right 35:02 and defending the values that will make America exceptional. 35:05 I will not allow false accusations to define my decades of public service, blah, blah, 35:12 blah, blah. 35:13 Okay. 35:13 It's all puffery about Trump after that. 35:16 Now, it's interesting that she's acting like this is like a, you know, a false sort of 35:24 hit job on her, and it may be, but just for the record, it's the Wall Street Journal that 35:28 has broken virtually all of the stories. 35:32 The Daily Mail broke at least one or two of the biggest stories. 35:35 Those are not left-wing publications. 35:37 And she's not being fired by President Joe Biden, she's being fired by President 35:42 Donald Trump. 35:43 The people who are accusing her of behaving badly work for Trump's embassy in Greece and 35:52 work for or were donors to Trump's campaign and our Trump boosters. 35:58 So that's what this has come out of. 36:01 And I'm very open-minded to her statement that she didn't do any of this stuff. 36:07 But we'll have to see because right now there is the possibility that Kimberly 36:12 is not only facing the loss of her position as ambassador, but she could, she could potentially 36:17 be in some criminal trouble here if, if the allegations against her are true. 36:23 And again, she's denying them. 36:25 So we, again, reported on this this morning, but I'm just going to give those of you who 36:29 didn't hear AM update, which you should totally be tuning into. 36:31 It's a 15 minute, 19 minute news update show that we put out every morning to get 36:36 you up to date on the day's news. 36:38 Here is what they are reporting. 36:42 Okay, first it started with this guy Deeders. 36:46 This guy Deeders is a Trump donor. 36:50 He's a former congressional candidate who did not win and he ran in Kentucky and gotten 36:58 to the orbit of Kimberly Guilfoyle and possibly some of the Trumps and appears to have been 37:05 trying to worm his way closer to President Trump through Kimberley. 37:13 The allegations broken by the Wall Street Journal on October 7th include an alleged 37:20 signal exchange in which she was about to testify for her confirmation hearing as ambassador. 37:26 And she didn't, well, they probe everything. 37:28 They look at when you're nominated for a post like this, they will look at your finances. 37:32 They will make sure, you know, there's nothing anybody can use to blackmail 37:35 you that kind of thing. And apparently she had some debts that she wanted off of the books, 37:39 reports the journal. And she went to at least this guy Deeders to say, please go pay off 37:46 my AmEx to the tune of $100,000. Do it directly. You can, here's my AmEx number and the address 37:57 and I'm begging you to go pay $100,000 to them for me. He said no. And she was 38:03 reportedly, allegedly, according to the Wall Street Journal, promising to set him up with 38:09 connections bragging about how all of the cabinet secretaries take her calls and that 38:14 she could basically have access to any one of them, and this would be worth Dieter's 38:18 while. 38:20 He reports the journal didn't do it, saying, I'll have to get a divorce. 38:24 He told her it would cost him his marriage, quote, I can't do this without getting 38:27 a divorce. 38:29 The reporting was that she was getting ready for that hearing and that what she said to 38:33 him was, quote, honey, please, I need you to get this done for me today. 38:39 You could just send it here. 38:41 She wrote on July 3rd, 2025, just days before her July 9th confirmation hearing. 38:45 Deeders didn't do it. 38:46 For months, she had been chatting with Deeders, reports the journal seeking, he'd been 38:51 seeking her help and getting the administration to help him on some personal tax and legal 38:58 issues. 39:00 And he had promised Guilfoyle payments of as much as $1 million if she was successful 39:07 in helping him resolve these issues with the administration figures. 39:12 Dieter said Guilfoyle told him, if he came up with the MX Money, quote, I will be your 39:17 Trump ride or die forever and ever," end quote, but he said she never came through on anything. 39:24 A lawyer for Guilfoyle disputed the authenticity of the messages but declined to provide specifics. 39:30 He said she had been paid to speak at events before her nomination and was owed a balance. 39:35 Dieters said that is a lie. He owed Guilfoyle nothing. She was seeking a favor from him 39:41 in exchange for access that she was promising him 39:47 to the admin. 39:50 Dieter said his dealings with Guilfoyle began in 2020 39:53 when he launched an event called Freedom Fest in Kentucky 39:56 in response to the COVID-19 medical mandates. 39:59 At that point, and in the years thereafter, 40:02 he paid her $300,000 to speak. 40:04 He had also given 200,000 to Trump Jr., 40:07 100,000 to Eric Trump, and others. 40:10 her interactions with theaters grew more frequent 40:12 in the months after she was nominated as ambassador. 40:15 She promised to lobby top Trump officials 40:16 from FBI Director Cash Patel to AG Pam Bondi, quote, 40:21 every secretary you know of, 40:25 from Defense, Transportation, Treasury, Commerce, 40:28 IRS Commissioner, everyone gets right back to me, 40:32 she wrote, before adding the FBI director, 40:34 his name misspelled, writes the journal. 40:36 Oh yeah, I'm forgetting Cash Patel. 40:38 Guilfoyle also expressed concern about her dealings with Deeders becoming public and the 40:43 effect that that might have on her ambassador post. 40:45 She warned him repeatedly to not commit talk of money or payments to text. 40:51 Eric, quote, I really wish you would stop papering all these things and quote, just 40:56 call me on signal. 40:57 In January, 2025, weeks after the nomination, she complained that Deeders had told a 41:02 producer on her podcast about their deal, quote, it's unbelievable when we have a 41:06 private arrangement with you, 41:07 that you would now CC a producer talking about money, 41:10 she said, do not say we have any arrangement. 41:13 She added, quote, what a nightmare. 41:14 You will literally cost me my ambassadorship. 41:16 Stop writing. 41:19 As her confirmation hearing approached, 41:20 Guilfoyle complained to friends that she was broke. 41:22 People familiar with the matter wrote. 41:27 Last March, when Dieter's inquired about 41:29 when she would move to Greece, 41:31 Guilfoyle told him to stop asking, 41:32 quote, I have a lot of shit to get done before then 41:34 and I need to make money." 41:36 Later that spring, she began requesting additional payments from Deeders, writes the journal, 41:40 asking him to draft a letter saying he owed her $250,000 back payments for consulting services. 41:46 That's what Deeders told the journal, quote, she was worried about legality. 41:49 She was worried about the appearances of it. 41:52 Then there was a report that there were two Greek business magnets whose businesses 41:58 she had promoted. 42:01 And the question is, why would an American ambassador to Greece be promoting the business 42:08 interests of some Greek magnet? 42:11 And the allegation is that she did that because one gave her a private jet ride to Paris and 42:19 one gave her a private jet ride someplace else that maybe I can't remember Dubai, 42:24 buy, but the one in Paris and then the one allegedly paid for her hotel stay at George 42:32 the Sank, George V, which is the fourth season hotel in Paris. 42:38 Now all of this, again, has been denied. 42:41 You heard her touting her qualifications, but there is reportedly an Inspector General 42:50 investigation into Kimberly Guilfoyle right now. 42:53 And that's problematic. 42:56 That's problematic for her inspector general of the department of state. 42:59 So like the internal watchdog, the Daily Mail's reporting was more about alleged mistreatment 43:06 of staff at the embassy. 43:07 They report that three sources told them the IG is looking into allegations surrounding 43:12 her potential substance abuse, use of private planes and helicopters, close relationship 43:17 with an energy and construction company, 43:20 improper gift acceptance, and more. 43:23 The official IG probe was launched 43:24 after internal complaints within the US embassy 43:26 escalated to a breaking point. 43:28 Sources in Greece tell the Daily Mail, 43:30 there was a toxic workplace climate they allege 43:33 that she's had workplace outbursts according to sources. 43:37 I mean, I don't know about any of these. 43:38 This is like, they've got a quote in there 43:40 that she threatened some embassy workers, 43:42 fucking get it done or you're fucking fired. 43:44 Well, I mean, so maybe they weren't getting shit done. 43:46 like that, that doesn't persuade me at all. And honestly, whenever there's a female boss 43:49 involved, you're going to get a, you're going to get an article about how it's a toxic workplace. 43:54 They don't do this shit to the men. They really genuinely don't. Doesn't mean she's not, 43:58 she's not capable of creating a toxic workplace. I'm not saying I'm just, I just, 44:02 it is a pattern. So take it for what it's worth. In any event, there was a report that she 44:08 had abused her security detail, a grandfather who was sleeping and she was drinking it for 44:15 in the morning and she wanted him to come get her. 44:18 He didn't respond because he was sleep. 44:20 The Daily Mail reports next day she demoted him. 44:23 Her alleged early morning request was quote to fetch more ice cubes. 44:27 This is what they are alleging in the mail. 44:30 All right, look, here's what's really happening here. 44:33 She may or may not have done these things. 44:35 I have no idea. 44:35 I'll wait to see what the OG says or the IG says. 44:38 But the problem is when stories like this break in a cascade around any cabinet official, 44:43 which she's not, or ambassador, which is a privileged position, usually given to massive donors 44:50 to a campaign. I think we all know how this one came about, which wasn't exactly donations, 44:56 but she was with Trump Jr. They were breaking up. She was with the Trump family for a very long 45:02 time, very intimately at many, many private gatherings. And the next thing we knew, 45:07 she was offloaded to the ambassadorship, and Don Jr. moved on with his life and later 45:13 married and fell in love with a lovely woman named Bettina Anderson, now Trump. 45:19 In any event, you cannot become a headache for the president. 45:24 That's the bottom line. 45:25 Any official who's in the cabinet or in the administration in any way, whether even 45:29 if it's an ambassadorship, but especially an ambassadorship, which is just like 45:32 a plum job you give to big donors, certainly don't want them to become a problem 45:36 for you, it's like, what do you, like, at least a cabinet official is actually working 45:39 for you. 45:40 The ambassadors, I mean, I'll pretend they're doing something important, but we know what 45:43 this really is. 45:44 This is a boondoggle. 45:47 And she has been, like, I'm not sure, this guy Deeders seems very pissed off, he created 45:53 a bunch of problems for her, and then once the dam is broken, Bob's your uncle. 45:58 Everybody starts coming out of the woodwork if you've ever had a negative experience 46:01 with them. 46:03 So I look forward to hearing what she has to say about it. 46:07 My experience with Kimberly Guilfoyle is she's a survivor. 46:10 She is a survivor. 46:12 She's very clever, a smart gal. 46:14 And I think if you were smart, you'd be betting for her to land on her feet. 46:19 We'll have to wait and watch it. 46:22 Now as long as we are in the lane of media personalities becoming public officials, 46:28 I've been meaning to get to this. 46:31 It was a podcast called Uncloseted and Don Lemon went on it within the past two weeks 46:39 and said the following, SOT 18. 46:42 Look, I never say never. 46:46 It is, look, I've got a lot on my plate right now doing what I'm doing. 46:50 This is not easy to do every day, but I have to be, I am very aware of the importance 46:55 of what I'm doing, what it means to the culture and society. 46:58 I shouldn't say very, sometimes I'm too close to it, 47:00 but when I'm out there, people like, 47:01 thank you for what you're doing. 47:03 And so, and it's very humbling, 47:05 but when I'm out there, they're not only saying, 47:07 thank you for what I'm doing, 47:08 they say, would you ever consider running for office? 47:11 And I say, well, you know, I thought about it, 47:13 and this would you ever run for president? 47:15 And I said, oh, well, definitely, 47:16 I think I could be a better president than Donald Trump. 47:18 So that's where that came from. 47:19 How serious is it? 47:20 If the people want me, I'll do it. 47:21 But if that's the best way for me 47:23 to help the American people, then sure, I'll do it. 47:25 And maybe, you know, maybe I can do them at the same time. 47:29 And maybe that, maybe that's a way of running 47:31 that has not been mined. 47:34 Let me try and get a headline out of you. 47:37 What percentage chance before you leave this earth, 47:40 do you think you will run for president? 47:42 Oh, what percentage chance that I think I'll run? 47:49 65, 70. 47:51 Wow. 47:52 Okay, I'm gonna shock you. 47:54 I think you should do it. 47:56 I actually think he should do it. 47:58 First of all, it's not a deal breaker that he has spent his life as a journalist. 48:04 I mean, you could absolutely parlay that into a career in public service. 48:08 Second of all, do you really think Kamala Harris is a lot smarter than Don Lemon? 48:13 Do you? 48:15 I know she was at least a lawyer. 48:18 She was an attorney general for the state of California. 48:20 No, I don't believe so. 48:22 Do you think Joe Biden was? 48:24 I don't. 48:26 Are we so enamored with our public officials now, we don't think somebody like Don Lemon 48:30 could do it? 48:31 Honestly, I'm not. 48:34 I actually think, yeah, he could match Witts against AOC, just fine. 48:39 He could. 48:41 And will he do it from his podcasting booth? 48:44 That would be interesting to watch. 48:46 All I can say is it would certainly give us a lot to talk about. 48:49 So I encourage him and I'm rooting for him. 48:53 He doesn't actually think he's going to win, however, because, well, he explains here on 48:59 SOT 19. 49:00 Because I think that America is ready for a gay president or a gay black president. 49:06 But do I think, as you asked me if I'm going to run, do I think that it is the right 49:12 time for that person to emerge and run? 49:15 I'm not so sure about that considering what is on the line. 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She as well counts as one of the eight because she's been accused by 53:42 by the first male defendant of fallating him 53:46 while he was in and out of consciousness, 53:48 which she seems to admit, 53:50 not that she was actively performing oral sex on him 53:53 at the moment, but that they're about in the bed together. 53:57 He could not keep his eyes open. 53:59 He continued to fall in and out of consciousness 54:01 as she was having an interlude with him. 54:05 There's a new report out today via TMZ, 54:08 citing one of the roommates who lived in the room in which the trist took place. 54:15 We don't know his name and he's not one of the defendants. So this actually is new information. 54:21 He and his girlfriend were apparently trying to get into that room on the night in question and 54:27 were eyewitnesses to the state of Jane Doe. And so it is interesting to hear what they had 54:33 to say when the university began investigating this case at Cornell. 54:38 They testified that she was coherent, Jane Doe was, when she was in the room, that she 54:44 did not look to be in distress when she exited that same room in the wee hours of the morning 54:50 overnight from October 19th to 20th, 2024. 54:56 They also testified to, this is, Jonathan Newell is defendant number two, the one 55:00 who wrote the vile Snapchat post about free, you know what, and he was part of the first 55:05 threesome and the second threesome and was blitzed out of his mind, which is probably why he 55:10 was tweeting things like he was not tweeting but posting on Snapchat. 55:16 But he was the one who was dry heaving and couldn't really, he wasn't doing very well 55:20 on that first tryst. 55:21 He was able to perform, but he was very sick. 55:25 and she testified, she told the police that he was dry heaving 55:29 and that she was rubbing his back. 55:31 Well, now we hear from his roommate 55:35 that when he went into his own room, 55:37 Jane Doe was inside with Newell, 55:39 who appeared to be vomiting into a bowl or a bucket. 55:43 He said Doe repeatedly told him everything was fine 55:46 and she was taking care of Newell. 55:48 He says he felt like Doe was pushing him out 55:51 of the doorway and not allowing him 55:52 to enter his own room. 55:54 She is now alleging even that interlude was rape. 55:58 A guy came in, a roommate, and her alleged rapist is bent over, vomiting into a bucket, 56:05 and she tells this new guy, everything's fine, she's taking care of Newell, and she's basically 56:13 pushing him out of the room. 56:14 I mean, truly, this woman wants us to believe that this guy was raping her, and this is 56:17 what she did when somebody stepped in, a roommate who had nothing to do with this 56:21 and has not been accused in any way in this case. 56:22 That's his testimonial, completely innocent of anything other than walking in and seeing 56:28 her and being told basically to get out that she's got it and she's taking care of Newell, 56:33 who is clearly physically incapacitated or close to it. 56:37 Not physically helpless, that's the standard, physically helpless is what she has to prove 56:41 in order to show that this was rape of her. 56:44 She's not there. 56:44 Now with guy number one who was passed out, you're there. 56:49 This guy was just vomiting into a bowl, her alleged rapist, and she looked at the entering 56:55 second roommate said, everything's fine. 56:57 Everything is fine, repeatedly, he said, and now I'm taking care of him. 57:02 This is crazy, you guys. 57:05 The next time he encountered her, multiple people were inside the room. 57:09 He says she was fully clothed, lying in a bed and conversing with the other individuals 57:13 in the room very clearly. 57:14 he says she appeared to be speaking very coherently and on a 1 through 10 scale of intoxication 57:21 she was between a 1 and a 2. Now whether she was or she wasn't, we know that she'd been doing 57:27 some ketamine. All we really know is that she did at least according to her one line of ketamine 57:32 off of this guy Newell's unit. The first bout of ketamine she claimed to remember in 57:38 Trisk number one prior to that is disputed, 57:40 and there may have been a third, 57:43 or if you go by the guy's count, 57:45 a second line of ketamine later in the evening. 57:49 In any event, he finally told them all to get out. 57:52 He wanted the room for himself. 57:55 And he did tell the police that he left the house 58:01 with Jilio Lopes, that's the third man 58:04 with whom she had sex last night, 58:05 and his girlfriend, they went to McDonald's 58:07 When they got back, the room was empty. 58:09 He heard several of his frat brothers the next morning when he woke up, involved in 58:14 what he called, in what the DJ, the, the, the referring to the roommate is, the DJ, what 58:22 he called the consensual act, the cops asked him what he meant by consensual. 58:26 He elaborated that all four of the guys that had sex with her, all admitted to 58:31 having consensual sex with Doe. 58:33 As for why the fraternity brothers felt it necessary to characterize sex with Doe 58:37 was consensual hours after the party. 58:39 Well, that's unclear, reports TMZ. 58:41 Let me clear it up for you. 58:42 They were talking to police officers. 58:44 Why would the police officers be asking you 58:46 about your sexual interlude 58:47 unless they were querying whether it was consensual? 58:51 This, well, it doesn't take a damn rocket scientist. 58:55 He told police Doe never gave off a vibe 58:57 that she wanted to leave the party 58:58 at any point he saw her during the night. 59:01 And he saw her fairly late. 59:03 The other witnesses, the DJ's girlfriend, 59:05 her friend also spoke to investigators on December 17th, 59:10 over a month after Doe first went to the police. 59:13 She said the girlfriend, 59:14 when she got to the fraternity house 59:15 after the McDonald's run, 59:17 there were frat bros standing outside the room 59:19 wondering what was going on inside. 59:20 She was confused when she saw people 59:22 were going in and out. 59:23 She told police, she thought it didn't sound 59:25 like something good happening inside. 59:27 She said someone, presumably her girlfriend, 59:29 told everyone to leave. 59:30 She saw Doe exit with four or five guys, 59:33 recall before the third interlude, some of the guys took her to another room. She said two guys. 59:38 She said it was scary because she didn't realize how many men were with Do, 59:42 but she said Do did not look distressed. Do did not look distressed. The co-ed told cops she 59:49 was not concerned about Do that night. She said her feelings changed as she heard more about 59:54 Do's account. And then she felt kind of guilty for not helping her. She told cops there was 59:59 no way of knowing something may have been amiss, because Doe said the men who were in 60:04 the room with her all looked very calm, sorry, she said Doe and the men all looked very calm 60:12 as they left, adding it seemed consensual, because no one looked visibly distressed. 60:19 Just another piece of the testimony that is likely to come in about Jane Doe and 60:25 And how she was nowhere near physically helpless, which is the only way she can prove rape. 60:33 Physical helplessness. 60:35 If you are intoxicated or high out of your mind, you cannot say I was incapable of consenting 60:42 if you are the reason you were that intoxicated. 60:46 You can't we've made a policy decision in New York state to not put male partners 60:52 partners in that position, where they then have to go back and relitigate consent that 60:56 they did obtain from a drunk partner, who then after the fact wants to say, I didn't 61:01 give consent because I was drunk. 61:02 No, we've decided, as many other states have in New York, that if you are voluntarily 61:08 intoxicated, you will not be able to raise lack of consent due to intoxication. 61:14 However, New York and all these other states will say, if your voluntary intoxication 61:20 has gotten to the point of physical helplessness, you're back in business. 61:23 So that is the only way Jane Doe can prove rape and this is the testimonial of 61:28 independent witnesses like somebody's girlfriend who says she seemed fine. 61:31 She didn't seem in distress at all, way into the evening. 61:34 When she left that room, it was in between Trist's two and three. 61:39 She didn't, she seemed fine. 61:40 The male roommate said she looked like she was maybe a one or two 61:44 on the scale of drunkenness. 61:47 She was totally coherent and not in distress. 61:51 And by the way, contrast that with Jonathan Newell, 61:54 who was vomiting into a bucket, 61:56 and she is shooing people out of the room 61:57 saying get out, I'm taking care of him. 61:59 Okay, this is not a rape victim. 62:03 We raised the issue of the show 62:05 Call Her Daddy yesterday, 62:07 which is a disgusting filthy podcast 62:08 where this woman has gotten rich 62:10 acting like a prostitute. 62:11 Talking about X-rated acts, 62:13 I played you some of the soundbites yesterday, giggling that 11-year-old girls were listening 62:17 to her talking about giving blowjobs and making it very clear that if you are 62:22 unattractive in Alex Cooper's eyes, you need to give more aggressive blowjobs. If you're only 62:27 a five or a six in Alex Cooper's judgment, you need to make an absolute pig out of yourself. 62:33 That's her advice to young women. This is the woman we're now looking to for female 62:37 empowerment with Michelle Obama and Kamala Harris and Hailey Bieber, many, many well-known 62:43 A-list celebrities go on there to be cool and it look like they're gonna have like the cool 62:48 girl conversation and now she's the voice of a generation because she wants to talk 62:53 about how you should swallow a man's semen. 62:56 That's the level of conversation she's brought into the public debate. 63:01 It is worse than even we knew because let me just show you something, okay? 63:06 She had on she had the nerve the nerve to weigh in on the Cornell seven all I want to hear from Alex Cooper about the Cornell seven 63:13 Eight is she's sorry. I would like to hear an apology from her for leading 63:18 God knows how many young American women down the lane that Jane Doe went into thinking that raunchy 63:25 Disgusting immoral nasty behavior is gonna make them feel better about themselves instead of worse 63:31 Because there's no one more directly responsible for filling young women's heads with that kind 63:35 of nonsense in this generation than this woman who hosts this podcast. 63:39 In my generation, it was sex in the city and Carrie Bradshaw, Cerega Jessica Parker and 63:44 that whole thing. 63:45 But in this generation, Gen Z and Millennials were dealing with this woman. 63:52 And she had the nerve to weigh in on the Cornell case by having on this absurd, 63:56 absurd, absurd Cornell professor who fancies herself an expert in misogyny and push the 64:02 bullshit lie about more than a third, a 30% of women on Cornell campuses have been raped. 64:08 These are lies, they're not true. 64:10 Again, as Heather McDonald pointed out, the Detroit overall crime rate was 2.4%, not 64:15 many years ago, for everything, murders, carjackings, robberies, you name it. 64:20 What are the odds that on Cornell and Ivy League University in just rapes alone were 64:25 at 35%. 64:26 these are lies, okay? They pushed the lies, of course. I mean, you're not going to go there for 64:30 facts unless you're an idiot. But the fact that she had the nerve to weigh in on it is what really 64:34 got my goat. And here is one of the exchanges that I found infuriating, Sot 25. It has been 64:43 almost a decade since the Me Too movement first started. A decade. How the hell are we still 64:48 here? Right? We have been talking about campus rape, consent, the way institutions fail women 64:55 for even longer than that. 64:57 We've got the language, we have the research, 65:00 we have the tools and the resources 65:02 to understand sexual violence, to help survivors 65:05 and to prevent it from happening. 65:07 And yet, we are still having the exact same conversations. 65:12 It is exhausting. 65:15 And more importantly, it is infuriating. 65:18 More than one in five women have experienced rape, 65:22 one in five women. 65:23 So every single one of us knows a Jane Doe many of us are Jane Doe 65:31 Okay, she's not as I said yesterday. She she she's a Jane hoe 65:36 She's a train hoe 65:38 this is a performance that we're witnessing here because 65:43 For this woman to look into the camera and say how did we get here? 65:47 How are we here is? 65:50 such a 65:52 farcical job of acting. She should be considered in the next Golden Globes nomination. Let me 65:59 tell you how we got here, sweetheart. And this is where my viewer warning is coming. Please 66:08 legitimately remove the children. Do not let them hear this next sound bite. And I apologize to you 66:12 in advance for playing it on my show. We have never played anything this this filthy. 66:16 I hope never to play anything this filthy again. I don't listen to this kind of thing. I know 66:21 don't either. This is not my idea of entertainment. I am playing this to show you who this woman is. 66:26 All right. Do not let your daughter listen to her. This person should not be a thought leader 66:33 in any way, shape or form. She is part of the reason we have young women so confused 66:42 about how to behave, what's going to make them feel sexy, what's good for their ego, 66:49 their bodies, their minds, and their spirits. 66:52 She is as guilty as they come 66:56 when it comes to corrupting the minds of these young women 66:59 and leading them down the path to hell. 67:02 That is truly what she's guilty of. 67:05 So again, please forgive me for the clip. 67:08 It is incredibly disgusting. 67:10 But Alex Cooper on her show, 67:14 not so long ago, it was 2019, 67:16 had a little chat with her then co-host 67:21 about a night of group sex 67:26 that her friend engaged in. 67:28 This is her male friend that she celebrated 67:31 like it was Christmas morning. 67:34 And it sounded very similar 67:37 to what just happened to Jane Doe. 67:40 Very similar. 67:42 Take a listen. 67:45 Basically, Milpunter was D.P.'ing this girl with his friend. 67:48 And if you guys again don't know what a D.P. is, double penetration in the button in the V. 67:55 Well, we don't have to be the mouth. 67:56 I mean, I think it really does have to be the butt and the V. 68:00 Or two in the V or two in the butt. 68:02 He's like, alright, I texted this girl and I said like, hey, what are you doing tonight? 68:06 She's like, I'm fucking you. 68:07 He's like, well, if you want to come over, 68:12 you need, I want to know, make sure you're down 68:14 to have fun with me and, in all caps, Josh. 68:19 And she was like, absolutely, I'm on my way. 68:22 I'm, my mouth, my jaw is dropped. 68:24 She's like, here we go. 68:26 My holes are ready. 68:27 This girl obviously knows what she's doing. 68:28 She gets down, takes his dick out, it's soft, 68:32 and literally sucks it hard. 68:33 Josh doesn't know when to come in, 68:35 because I don't think Josh has ever done this. 68:36 Okay. 68:36 So milk hunter gets on his goddamn fucking phone and texts him and goes 68:42 Take out your dick and 68:45 Put it in our fucking pussy 68:46 So his friend Josh comes on over takes his pants off and just starts railing this bitch from behind there all they're fucking 68:53 They're switching positions and all of a sudden their phones are blowing up their buddy 68:59 Is texting them in all caps 69:02 Saying I'm ready. I'm ready tag me in tag totally in classic 69:08 He is outside with his pants down. Yeah jacking off to porn on his phone 69:14 Asking if she can take more he said at this point this girl had been taking it for so long 69:19 Mascara was on the hardwood floor like this girl was 69:21 Taking deep throats to the back of the fucking throat guzzling both men's come and she literally looks up at him with dick in her 69:29 her mouth and she was like, yes. 69:30 So the fucking other roommate gets in after male ex comes 69:35 and he sits down and starts getting his dicks up. 69:39 She is a pig. 69:42 This is a disgusting, filthy pig. 69:47 And now she wants to lead a discussion 69:49 about how we got here. 69:52 We got here thanks to you and your filthy pig mouth. 69:55 That's how we got here. 69:56 You, unfortunately, became very influential 69:59 and very rich off of that disgusting horror talk. 70:02 That's what you are to me. 70:03 That's what you sound like in my opinion. 70:05 You're a complete fucking poor prostitute. 70:07 Nobody with an ounce of class in their body 70:10 would ever talk like that on a show listened to 70:13 by young women. 70:15 Not to mention the 11 year old 70:16 you were perfectly comfortable with 70:19 from the sound of it knowing she was out there. 70:21 Oh baby girl, don't listen. 70:23 Oh so fun, keep it chummy. 70:26 That's her celebrating 70:29 a night of debauchery that sounds nearly identical to what happened to Jane Doe. 70:36 Nearly identical, only, you know, in this case, we have multiple texts from Jane Doe 70:42 after the fact, reaffirming consent and how much she enjoyed it, and that she loved at 70:45 least two of the participants, and that sex and sexuality were changing and people 70:48 were gonna have to get used to it and people think I'm a slut, unfortunately, it's true, 70:51 he, he, that we, I don't know that there was any of that in the other case. 70:55 And yes, this Jane Doe did eventually allege that it was not consensual. 71:00 But there was a mountain, is a mountain of evidence showing otherwise, which you failed 71:06 to discuss on your little show asking, how did we get here? 71:09 How did we get here? 71:11 None of the exonerating information, only the condemnation of men. 71:15 Only the fake me too victim hood that you want your audience to think you feel that 71:21 you're an empath to. 71:23 please spare me. 71:25 And it was not a one-off. 71:27 Here's another one, 2020. 71:30 Take a listen to Alex Cooper there, 71:32 stop 29. 71:33 I have a really random thought for you. 71:38 About threesomes. 71:40 Oh yeah. 71:41 And foursomes. 71:41 Yeah. 71:42 This is so strange, okay. 71:44 I have been in relationships before 71:46 where I'm like, I will never have a threesome with you. 71:48 I will never have a foursome with you 71:49 and get the fuck out of my face 71:51 because I was just too much in the relationship too far down. 71:54 I'm at a weird place right now 71:56 and I have never in my life really thought about this. 71:58 I've had a threesome before. 72:00 I've never had a foursome. 72:02 With this new guy, he's so sexual 72:04 and we've had conversations about like, 72:07 it's the first real relationship 72:08 that I've been so like sexually pushing the limits. 72:13 Like he pushes me to the limits 72:14 and he's like, I wanna do everything with you 72:18 because it makes me, even if we do shit that's wild, 72:22 like you, like whatever it is, it makes us closer. 72:25 And he was like, it could be hot, 72:26 like if we're like out one night 72:27 and we, you go pick someone up 72:30 and then like we bring them back. 72:31 And I've been thinking about it. 72:32 It's early enough in the relationship 72:34 that if it's ever going to happen, 72:36 it would have to be now. 72:39 So you should do a threesome 72:40 and you should do it early in the relationship, got it? 72:44 And maybe not a foursome. 72:45 And where did Jane Doe draw the line that night? 72:48 Anyone remember? 72:50 She didn't wanna do the foursome, 72:51 but she was game for the threesome. 72:53 She explicitly, by her own words, said yes to that. 72:56 And here's this, how did we get here? 72:59 How could we possibly be in this place? 73:03 She spent years promoting these exact choices 73:08 to a generation, your daughters. 73:11 And at one point, I'm sure she'd love to get mine too bad. 73:16 This isn't the only time. 73:17 Here's another one. 73:18 This is from 2019 with her co-host, Sophia, 73:21 Sot 31. 73:23 I don't know if I'd rather like a Megan Fox situation 73:26 or if I want like a real freak who's like a sick. 73:30 I mean, I think if you're gonna, they're both fun. 73:32 I think if you're gonna try the three smell, 73:33 go for both and see which is your cup of tea. 73:36 Honestly, just try them both out. 73:37 Anyways, go for some, that's what we're trying to say. 73:40 Fuck a three some, it's hard on the four some these days. 73:45 It's so fun. 73:46 So joyous to talk about our wonderful threesomes and foursomes such a good time and not just that now 73:52 She's graduated into she wants to be the new Howard Stern 73:55 You know getting the big celebrity interviews crossing over into legitimacy and hoping that we will forget about her disgusting 74:03 Sex worker past. That's what she is to me. How is it different a sex worker gets paid 74:10 to 74:11 Get men off. How is this different? 74:14 But she gets paid to talk dirty, X-rated talk, which she knows exactly how that's gonna be 74:20 received by at least half the population. 74:23 So now she wants to be legitimate and interview Kamala Harris. 74:28 By the way, it was all about abortion and how we need to keep it accessible on demand 74:33 to every woman who wants it. 74:35 And she manages to get the chain smokers in there of the band, the chain smokers, 74:40 the two guys, two lead guys. 74:41 and take a listen to her exchange with them. 74:45 This was just a couple of years ago, 2023, 74:47 stop 30. 74:48 How often do people propose threesomes with the two of you 74:52 and how often have you accepted? 74:55 Get out of my head. 74:59 This is up to you to answer. 75:00 I don't want to answer this question. 75:03 It's caller daddy. 75:04 How often is it proposed? 75:05 Not proposed. 75:06 Sell them. 75:07 Yeah, yeah, but it's a lot of men for men. 75:14 And it's happened the account if it's internationally 75:25 I'm so proud of you guys wasn't it what did you look at each other differently that morning the first time 75:34 All the times I think we were just like what the fuck just happened 75:38 Cause it wasn't like a, we were never planned. 75:41 You know what I mean? 75:41 It was always like, just like, 75:43 I don't know what is happening right now, 75:45 but like I'm also just like, I don't know. 75:47 Where's that? 75:48 It's weird. 75:49 I'm not gonna lie. 75:49 I don't know like how. 75:50 Like that's how three sentence happened though. 75:52 In any way. 75:54 Absolutely. 75:54 It's usually never planned. 75:55 This just starts, oh it's, oh that, 75:57 okay, I guess we're doing that. 76:00 I'm so proud of you. 76:02 She said, so proud of you for your threesomes. 76:06 So the chain smokers are disgusting pigs too, good to know. 76:09 She's so proud of them, so proud. 76:13 That's who wants to lead the conversation on Jane Doe and how we got here without taking 76:19 one second to take some accountability for her irresponsible messaging to the women 76:25 of America. 76:25 Shame on this woman, shame on her. 76:28 And here's the capper. 76:31 guess who's following Alex Cooper's personal Instagram page. Yeah, you got it. Jane Doe. Jane 76:43 Doe, who clearly was influenced by this woman and her disgusting, boneheaded messaging about what 76:54 would make a young woman feel sexy, feel good, feel empowered, what would gain you the approval, 77:00 the pride of Alex Cooper, what kind of behavior 77:04 is fun and celebratory and normal? 77:08 That story, the first story that we played, 77:11 the only reason I played such a filthy thing 77:14 on the Megan Kelly show, which we have never done 77:16 something this disgusting before, 77:18 is because it matches up nearly identically 77:21 with what happened at Cornell University and Jane Doe 77:25 who follows Alex Cooper's personal Instagram. 77:29 Jane Doe got in trouble that night because of Jane Doe's own choices. 77:35 It's not Alex Cooper's fault. 77:38 But she is influencing a generation of young women to make terrible, terrible choices for 77:46 themselves. 77:48 To me, it has the same air as someone who's had three abortions, who is the most pro-choice 77:57 advocate you ever meet in your life. 77:58 And some of these women who are the most ardently pro-choice, 78:02 truly there should be a moniker underneath their card name 78:07 that reads, I feel terrible about myself and I want you to as well. 78:13 I've made terrible life choices and I'll feel better about them if more women make them. 78:19 I won't be such an outlier. 78:21 That's what's going on here. 78:23 That's clearly what's happening. 78:25 Obviously, this woman has made some very dark choices in her personal life. 78:30 And she, I think, would love to see others make the same choices and somehow feel validated 78:35 by that. 78:36 And somehow feel that instead of being just a disgusting horror, she's leading some sort 78:41 of a sexual revolution where it is totally fine to give up anal on the first date. 78:46 We played you that sound bite before. 78:49 And not only that, but if you wanna do it with four men or three who are strangers, 78:52 And, you know, just keep picking them up one after the other. 78:57 You go for it, girl. 78:59 I'm so proud of you. 79:01 I'm so proud of you. 79:03 I'm disgusted by this person. 79:06 Cannot believe that she has risen to such prominence in the national conversation. 79:12 And shame on anyone who goes on that show and helps promote her. 79:18 Shame on you. 79:19 And by the way, we'll be calling you all out by name. 79:23 This is the whole thing's a disaster. 79:25 She's a disaster. 79:27 Jane Doe is a disaster. 79:28 This case is a disaster. 79:29 The media coverage of it has been a disaster. 79:31 Thank God for TMZ, by the way. 79:33 She's one of the only ones reporting honestly on this. 79:35 Unlike CBS New York and The New York Times, 79:37 which appear to be hiding portions of text messages 79:40 that say, our body's our choice. 79:43 They didn't want us to know that, 79:44 that she herself, Jane Doe, 79:46 would refer to it as a gang bang, 79:47 Not a gang rape, intertext message, and so on. 79:50 The whole thing is a disaster. 79:51 Please keep your eyes on True North. 79:53 Go to church, raise a godly family. 79:56 Stay in touch with Jesus. 79:58 Read the Bible. 79:59 Remind yourself that there is morality. 80:01 There's right and there's wrong in this world. 80:03 There's a way of enjoying sex to the fullest. 80:05 10 out of 10 in a loving, caring relationship 80:08 where you can trust the other partner 80:09 and they trust you too. 80:12 What's happening here is something 80:13 that is sent to us by the devil. 80:16 I genuinely believe that. 80:17 I believe this is the devil's forces at work on us 80:21 and it needs to be called out. 80:24 It's like, I feel like St. Michael is here 80:27 trying to protect us against the wickedness 80:29 and snares of the devil and I see it there. 80:31 I see it so clearly that a person like this 80:34 would rise to such influence and have the ear 80:36 of so many vulnerable, clueless young women 80:40 who think somehow this is gonna be fun 80:41 and empowering in a good time 80:42 and they wind up feeling absolutely disgusting 80:46 The truest thing that was written in all the Jane Doe texts and exchanges of testimony 80:51 that we've read was the bit where she said she'd been up all night crying. 80:56 That I believe that she had been up all night crying shortly after this event happened. 81:03 I don't believe Jane Doe was proud of what she did. 81:06 I don't believe Jane Doe had she not decided to call this a rape ever would have done 81:09 this again. 81:10 I don't think Jane Doe would have continued telling other young women that somehow this 81:14 This was empowering and that being a slut is a laughable matter. 81:18 I think what happened was she felt absolutely disgusting about herself and she had enough 81:22 coeds in her ear telling her she was raped and then got wind that she wasn't going to 81:27 be able to go to the Kai-Fei Halloween party and that they'd been talking about her in 81:32 disgusting ways on that Snapchat exchange board. 81:35 And that was that. 81:37 Her own personal narrative changed and then those boys' lives changed forever. 81:42 It's very tragic. 81:43 There is still time for her to withdraw this money grab civil complaint to stand down on the absurd new criminal push 81:51 There was no crime here. 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When in seventh grade she told her mother she'd gotten her period, 85:01 her mother asked her weight, she claimed, and then informed her she must never 85:05 gain another pound. This is your weight, mother pronounces. This is your size. I 85:10 have been, I have been wary of weight gain ever since, wrote Blair. She also 85:15 claimed to the New York Times in 2022 that when she was in ninth grade in 85:20 Michigan at a private school, she was, quote, ruined, groomed by a dean who abused her. 85:27 In the years ahead, she writes she would be raped multiple times. 85:32 She says that alcohol made her unable to remember the details of many assaults. 85:36 Well, I left my body and other people entered it. 85:38 No prosecutions were ever brought. 85:40 It does not appear she ever named these individuals specifically. 85:44 specifically, and there were some questions about whether this was a truthful account. 85:51 Now we find out that yesterday on a flight, two days ago actually, I think the news just 85:55 broke yesterday, she was on a plane. 86:01 It was a Delta airplane on its way from Los Angeles to JFK in New York. 86:08 and while in the air, she attempted to open the door 86:13 leading out of the aircraft. 86:15 This led to an altercation 86:17 in which she punched one flight attendant and bit another. 86:21 If you listen to the pilot calling down 86:23 seeking paramedics help when they land the plane, 86:26 he suggests he doesn't know whether the second victim 86:28 is a second flight attendant or a passenger. 86:31 But in any event, it appears 86:33 at least two people were hurt by Blair on the airplane. 86:37 The plane went on lockdown, sources said adding that Blair was restrained in some way, but 86:44 was not duct taped. 86:45 She did have a support animal with her, a dog at the time of the incident. 86:49 Her lawyer met her at the hospital and took possession of the dog. 86:53 This is not her first rodeo causing chaos on a plane. 86:59 In 2016, she was forced to apologize following a bizarre incident that happened aboard 87:04 Delta flight where she allegedly mixed alcohol and medication before she started crying and shouting 87:09 about being abused on her flight home from Cancun. She was rushed to a Los Angeles hospital 87:16 after she reportedly mixed alcohol and pills on this flight home and began to scream about a 87:20 man physically abusing her. Quote, he burns my private parts. He won't let me eat or drink. 87:26 He beats me. He's going to kill me. She shouted, breaking down in tears according to fellow 87:30 passengers. Her statement after this was, I made a big mistake yesterday after a lovely 87:37 trip with my son and dad and his dad. I mixed alcohol with medication and that caused me 87:42 to black out and led me to say and do things that I deeply regret. I'm a flawed human 87:46 being who makes mistakes and I'm filled with shame over this incident. I'm truly very 87:49 sorry. That was 2016. Here we are 10 years later. And once again, she has an absolute 87:56 meltdown on a plane where again she tries to open the door of the plane leading 88:04 outside when they are flying in the air is stopped and then assaults the two flight 88:09 attendants who tried to stop her. They landed at LAX. The pilot had called in 88:14 advance asking for police and paramedics and one of the passengers caught 88:18 this audio which they then sold gave to TMZ. You can hear it in part, you 88:26 You will hear Selma Blair, we are told, according to TMZ, screaming, no, and stop being removed 88:32 from this flight, SOT 35, obviously 88:55 in distress. 88:57 Now we are told that when she got into the ambulance, she assaulted one of the paramedics 89:03 and a police officer or let me correct myself. 89:08 herself, one attendant who was trying to take care of her, and then later a nurse. 89:16 This is what the Daily Mail reported, that a request initially went out for medics to 89:25 meet the aircraft because two crew members needed care. 89:28 They said there was a bloody nose as well as some bite marks, and they also said that 89:34 the passenger, meaning Selma Blair may have bashed her head on the bulkhead, that allegation 89:39 was repeated later by her lawyer. 89:42 Then they said, after leaving the plane, Blair allegedly took her leg out of a stretcher's 89:47 straps and kicked at a Port Authority police officer's face, so not the paramedic but 89:52 a police officer, while she was in the stretcher at his face, neck and chest, according 89:58 to the police complaint, as she was being transported in the ambulance from JFK airport's 90:04 Terminal 4. 90:05 According to the legal complaint, after Blair was taken to Jamaica Hospital Medical Center, 90:09 she kicked the chest of a registered nurse. 90:12 Both the nurse and the police officer reported being in pain after being attacked. 90:17 Prosecutors say adding that the officer had a swollen jaw. 90:22 She later appeared in court. 90:27 She was arraigned and she bailed out. 90:31 here's some video of her walking into the arraignment. There's no sound. She's wearing 90:37 a white t-shirt. She's got her sunglasses on, white sweatshirt. She's kind of limping. 90:46 Don't know if that's because of her MS. She was using a cane not long ago, a couple years ago, 90:51 but then she claimed that she was completely in remission with symptoms all resolved 90:55 thanks to stem cell treatments. So I don't know exactly what the limp is about here. 91:00 could be the MS has resumed, 91:03 could be got injured in one of her many altercations 91:06 that I just outlined for you. 91:10 Sorry, here is actually dispatch audio 91:12 of the officials requesting the medical personnel. 91:14 I should have played that a minute ago, SOP 34. 91:16 We'd like to have some medical personnel 91:18 at the gate for a couple of the FAs 91:21 involved in the passenger incident. 91:23 They just need to get a couple things looked at. 91:26 Okay, I will pass it along just getting there. 91:31 No ambulance, just some medical personnel available for two flight attendants at the gate should be fine for that. 91:37 I know you're busy, but just had a couple of questions for you for paperwork purposes. 91:42 The passenger, the abusive passenger, two flight attendants that are requested paramedics? 91:51 From the info I've got, it sounds like there were two, yeah, one flight attendant and one passenger that sustained some minor injuries, 92:00 a bloody nose as well as some white marks as well so I don't think we need 92:05 an ambulance or anything like that but we just think it's some medical 92:08 personnel at the gate to look at their injuries. 92:11 Hey Delta 938 heavy we do have paramedics approaching the gate right now and the 92:17 law enforcement already at the gate and then one additional add-on it sounds 92:21 like the disruptive passenger also bashed her head on the bulkhead or 92:26 something like that. So we'll obviously have to get her potentially checked out as well 92:31 as involved with law enforcement. 92:34 And there you have it. That person who hit her head on the bulkhead was Selma Blair according 92:40 to her lawyers. Now, we find the following out. This is not the first time that Selma 92:47 Blair has bitten another person because she bit one of these flight attendants, 92:53 at least one. This is a thing with this woman. The New York Post reported a bit about 93:00 her memoir confessing to this. She blames her biting on her shyness. If she's overwhelmed in 93:08 public, she writes, quote, my system gets overwhelmed and instantaneously short circuits 93:12 in my life. Social interactions have been cumbersome, especially for the victims. 93:17 was Sienna Miller had an incident with her. 93:21 One night after her divorce, 93:23 that's Selma Blair's divorce, in 2006, 93:26 Blair writes that she was at the Chateau Marmont 93:28 when she, that's an L.A., when she saw Sienna Miller 93:31 and introduced herself. 93:32 Quote, I couldn't begrudge her for any part 93:35 she was winning over me, Blair writes. 93:39 So I grabbed her arm and bit it playfully 93:42 as if it were an apple. 93:43 Even as I held her forearm in my mouth, 93:45 I was gassed at myself. 93:46 I thought, what have I gotten myself into or her? This is horrible behavior. Blair shares that Miller 93:53 quote kind of screamed, Opa, as I do whenever someone breaks a plate. You bit me, didn't you? 93:59 You really did. But quote, she didn't shame me for this in my book. She will forever be the bell 94:05 of the ball. Okay, Seth MacFarlane. Another incident. Blair also remembers becoming friendly 94:12 with Scarlett Johansson while working on the 2000 film In Good Company. She was delighted 94:17 when Johansson invited her to hang out with her and her pals in Las Vegas. The first night 94:23 the group went out for sushi, but Blair, who struggled with alcoholism for years, confesses 94:28 that she, quote, wasn't good at social drinking. Well, yeah, that's not a thing for alcoholics. 94:33 I did not realize how drunk one can get while seated at a table eating. After dinner 94:38 they made their way to a club where Blair saw her friend, Seth Green, who introduced 94:41 her to family guy creator Seth McFarlane. I was starstruck, she writes, quote, what do I do in 94:49 public situations where I admire someone but feel as if I don't bring anything to the party? Well, 94:55 I think we all know the answer by this point. Quote, I bit him on the hand. Whoa, he yelled. 95:01 That really hurt. It wasn't a disaster. I didn't break skin, but I soon hated myself. This is 95:06 very bizarre behavior. And like, I'm seeing a pattern here too of constantly blaming it 95:11 on alcohol or mixing alcohol with pills. I mean, sorry, after a certain point, you just 95:15 stop being able to use that as your crutch. Like one big incident and we would feel sorry 95:20 for you like we did in the 2016 thing. But this is a pattern now where you've heard 95:24 a lot of people, none more so than Kate Moss. She finally became friendly with supermodel 95:31 Kate Moss and one night was hanging out with her and other people in a London hotel 95:35 tell sweet after a Mark Jacobs fashion show. 95:37 The two were having fun taking Polaroids together 95:39 and that's when Blair decided to bite Moss's finger 95:43 prompting the model to laugh. 95:45 Quote, and because she laughed, I did it again. 95:49 Selma Blair writes, the second time she did not laugh 95:52 and exclaimed that really fucking hurt. 95:55 The Calvin Klein model then punched Blair in the back 95:58 and grabbed Blair's thumb and crunched right into it. 96:02 So she bit her in return. 96:04 Aren't you so sorry you're not at these Hollywood parties? 96:07 Quote, this was the first time I had any inkling 96:09 of how much I might hurt people when I bit them. 96:12 And quote Blair confessed, quote, 96:14 immediately I transformed into a shamed nursery school kid. 96:19 Oh my gosh, I whispered, I am so sorry. 96:22 This is a very strange person. 96:26 I don't know what's going on with the MS 96:28 or whether she's in full remission as she claimed 96:30 and she has no more symptoms or like what's happening. 96:33 But I know a few people with MS 96:35 and it does not cause you to behave like this. 96:39 Alcoholism and pill addiction can maybe severe anxiety. 96:45 They said she has a fear of flying. 96:47 Perhaps you have a fear of flying 96:49 and you self-medicate when your dog's not getting it done 96:51 as your emotional support animal 96:54 with booze and pills on a flight. 96:57 That could explain this. 96:59 I don't think it has to do with MS, though I'm not a doctor, 97:04 but her lawyer is of course trying to come up with all sorts 97:07 of excuses why she's, this isn't really her, 97:11 that this was some sort of a medical emergency 97:15 he wants us to believe. 97:17 And by that, I think he's making a reference to her MS. 97:21 But I'm sorry, I'm not sure that's gonna fly. 97:25 I think Selma Blair's had some issues for a long time. 97:28 as, you know, I just made clear. 97:31 And I think these issues unaddressed 97:34 are gonna continue causing problems for Selma Blair. 97:37 She's now facing multiple charges. 97:40 She was, let's see, in court, 97:43 she was ordered to keep her cuffs on. 97:44 They're afraid of her given that behavior. 97:47 Judge Indira Khan set her bail at $20,000 cash, 97:49 $60,000 bond during the hearing. 97:54 Let's see, she faces two to seven years behind bars 97:57 if she's convicted of two state-level assault charges. 98:00 This is with respect to the cop and the nurse. 98:02 There are other charges that are going to come her way via the feds for the two flight 98:07 attendants whom she assaulted in the air. 98:10 That's being handled now by the FBI. 98:13 So the lawyer said this was not an intentional assault. 98:16 She missed several doses of a powerful medication that controls severe neurological symptoms. 98:22 She not only has MS, but they say she has Parkinson's symptoms or Parkinson's-ism, 98:30 which I'm not sure if they're making a distinction between that and the actual disease. 98:34 The lawyer said she boarded this flight after being on set and working extensive hours 98:38 and exhaustive hours in the days leading up to this flight. 98:41 Now just stop it. Stop that. Stop it right now. 98:45 Everybody listening to me right now has boarded a flight after working extensive hours 98:48 and being exhausted. 98:49 it. Many of us have done that countless times on a flight has does not cause you to assault 98:55 flight attendants and try to open the door to the airplane while you're mid flight. Additionally 99:00 at one point during the flight there was an incident where she actually fell and hit 99:04 her head. Well it seems that there's a dispute about exactly how that happened. There there's 99:09 a contention that she fell in the course of the altercation but he seems to be suggesting 99:14 oh she fell she hit her head and this caused some sort of an incident. I don't know 99:17 what he's getting ready to argue, 99:18 but we'll learn more about the facts as time goes on. 99:20 He says, these factors coupled with the altitude 99:24 resulted in a state of severe confusion and disorientation. 99:27 So he's claiming that it was missing 99:29 her powerful medication and the altitude 99:34 and she had worked at sense of hours 99:37 and exhaustive hours and she hit the head. 99:40 Like, I mean, there, you know, 99:42 too many excuses means no excuse, right? 99:45 Like, you know how it is. 99:48 Somebody's canceling on you. 99:49 They're like, I'm sick and my husband's sick 99:51 and my kid is sick 99:52 and also our house burned down 99:53 in our cars in the shop. 99:55 You know, they're lying. 99:56 They just don't feel like doing the date. 99:57 Okay. 99:58 It's to be better off saying, 99:59 I don't feel well, let's reschedule. 100:01 Too many excuses means no excuses. 100:04 He told the judge to consider 100:06 Selma Blair's body of work 100:08 and what she's done for people. 100:10 This is someone we should look up to, he said. 100:13 She is the gold standard 100:14 And the judge to her credit said Ms. Blair 100:17 should not get special treatment because she is a celebrity. 100:22 You go Judge Khan. 100:25 So yeah, I think they're going to take this very seriously. 100:28 And I do think she was probably in the midst 100:29 of some sort of mental health crisis. 100:32 That seems very clear. 100:33 And I really genuinely hope Selma Blair 100:35 finally gets the help that she clearly 100:38 so desperately needs. 100:43 Okay. We're going to take a break. When we come back, we're going to bring on Andy. No. 100:49 Now, Andy is somebody who has been right smack dab in the middle of reporting, not only on 100:55 and Tifa, which you know is a very dangerous group, but on trans Tifa, which is also a 101:01 very dangerous group. There are actually groups of trans activists who whose aim it 101:09 It is to hurt, and worse, other people. 101:13 And Andy Knoe is one of the few people who will report on them, fearlessly, courageously, 101:19 and at great risk to himself. 101:22 Well, he's going to be here in a minute to explain to us what he has found. 101:27 As he's unearthed, he says the existence, and he's written a whole book about this 101:30 now, of a trans-tifa group that he says has actually murdered people. 101:37 And I've got a lot of questions for him about this group. 101:41 In the meantime, I'm going to tell you this before we sign off from our second hour and 101:45 begin just a bit of a third, please go and go to Megan Kelly.com. 101:51 And there you can sign up for our once a week email or American news minute, which 101:56 updates you not only on the news, you need to know, but on the Stradwick files. 101:59 He had a disastrous evening the other day, came downstairs and there was not one, 102:05 but two piles of steaming brown, you know what, 102:09 sitting in our family room courtesy of our dog. 102:12 I don't know what he got into, but one thing is for sure, 102:15 he had eaten, lapped up, an entire box of bone broth, 102:20 which apparently did not agree with him. 102:23 Okay, we're gonna be right back with news 102:26 about this trans-tifa group, and Andy, no. 102:29 Here's one thing you need to know about veracity. 102:32 The founder actually knows what she's talking about. 102:34 That's not always a given in the wellness industry. 102:37 There are plenty of companies built around marketing. 102:40 This one was built around a practitioner who spent years helping patients navigate metabolism 102:44 and hormone issues. 102:47 I've discussed GLP-1s before on the show. 102:49 They can be useful tools for some, but you might be interested in finding something that 102:53 fits more easily into your daily routine. 102:56 That's why I want to tell you about Veracity's Metabolism Ignite. 103:00 You can take two capsules with breakfast and they say this will lead to fewer cravings, 103:05 less mindless snacking and more focus. 103:08 So learn from their founder, Ali, and consider making the switch to veracity. 103:13 Head to veracityhealth.co and use the code Megan for up to 65% off your order. 103:19 Once again, that's V-E-R-A-C-I-T-Y health.co to get up to 65% off and make sure you 103:27 use our promo code BEGIN so they know we sent you. 103:33 You might not think about oil and natural gas, but it's a big part of your daily routine. 103:38 From the soap you use, to your toothpaste, even your bed sheets. 103:43 More than 6,000 everyday products are made using oil and natural gas. 103:47 Companies like Energy Transfer work behind the scenes, safely transporting these resources 103:52 across the country through a network of underground pipelines. 103:55 Learn more at ittakesenergy.com. 104:01 With a good source of protein, 104:03 Quaker protein products offer a variety 104:05 of delicious flavors and options 104:07 from breakfast time to snack time. 104:09 Think about it. 104:10 You shower, get dressed, head out to drop off the kids, 104:13 log on to meetings, follow up after meetings, 104:15 hit the gym, pick up the kids, 104:16 and you realize it's already time for dinner. 104:19 From oatmeal and granola to bars and rice snacks, 104:22 Quaker protein products have options for the whole family. 104:25 Get your protein with Quaker. 104:26 fuel to start whatever is next available to store near you. 104:58 in Kelly Channel, series XM111, and on the series XM app. 105:07 Independent journalist Andy Noh is best known for his extensive reporting on Antifa and 105:12 far left political violence, which he's been swept up in at times in trying to cover groups 105:17 like that. 105:18 He's gotten physically attacked. 105:20 He does this reporting at great risk to himself. 105:23 Now he is out with a new book detailing what he describes as one of the most disturbing 105:27 investigations of his career. 105:28 fear. The book is called The Zizians, inside a trans death cult. It just came out today 105:34 and in it, Andy Ngo investigates a group he describes as a radical trans leftist vegan 105:41 A.I. doomer cult that has been linked to multiple deaths across the United States. Here's 105:48 a look at the book's trailer. The book has its own trailer. 105:51 What began as a small and obscure California community became something else entirely. 105:58 A cult built around a transfigure known as Ziz. 106:02 Around Ziz, a secretive network of transgender devotees emerged. 106:07 What they left behind was a trail of violence linked to eight deaths, 106:12 including a Border Patrol agent and a key murder trial witness. 106:16 Over nearly a decade, the group recruited followers from around the world. 106:20 I tracked down sources, interviewed witnesses, uncovered hidden records, 106:25 and pieced together an impossible story from fragments scattered across the world. 106:31 Hmm. Andy joins me now. Andy, so good to see you again. So tell us, who are the Zizians? 106:40 Well, let me provide a little context. So for those who are familiar with my reporting, 106:45 they know that for many years I've reported on Antifa and I've been subjected to their 106:49 violence. But in the last five years, I've taken a trajectory towards reporting on trans violence. 106:57 In 2020, during the BLM riots and Antifa riots after George Floyd died, when I was gathering the 107:05 data on those who were being arrested at the Portland riots, for example, in Portland where 107:10 he used to live, disproportionately up to 20% of the arrestees on certain nights were trans 107:17 identifying in some way and I would verify this through looking up individually each person 107:23 and getting their booking photos. So that was something that I thought was very curious 107:28 and weird because all other estimates out there, even on the higher ends of what researchers 107:33 think are the demographics of trans people in America, it's about 0.5% at the high end. 107:40 So why is it magnitude higher in left-wing violence? 107:46 And then I was beaten severely in 2019 107:49 and also again in 2021. 107:52 And nobody was held criminally liable for that, 107:55 but I pursued justice through the civil court 107:58 and of the individuals that I had sued, 108:02 half of them ended up identifying as trans. 108:06 So personally, it really hit me in the face 108:08 and what I learned in the years following census that for news reporting involving homicide, 108:15 murder cases, and type of violence, you cannot take the names of suspects at face value from 108:23 reporting agencies or even law enforcement departments because all of them use names and 108:31 sex of individuals that are often inaccurate if it involves trans identifying individuals. 108:38 So last year on inauguration day when a Border Patrol agent was ambushed and shot dead 108:45 in Vermont right by the Canadian border, as soon as I found out the names of these suspects who 108:51 were involved in that case, I dug further and I found out, wait, there are trans links here 108:57 and not just trans link but cult links and I kept digging further and further and eventually 109:02 I learned about the Zizians and I traveled to the various hiding spots across the U.S. 109:08 I interviewed people and witnesses and family members and really uncovered their secrets. 109:14 The story has all the elements that you think media would be all over. 109:19 There's interstate murders, money, suicides, revenge, fake deaths, cover-ups, all of 109:28 that. 109:28 And yet it was barely touched on by the mainstream media. 109:32 And I think the kryptonite for them was the fact that 109:35 almost all the members are trans identifying 109:39 and trans ideology plays a huge component in their extremist beliefs. 109:46 Yeah, because the media loves a good cult story. 109:49 Normally, they'd be all over that. 109:51 Like when there was that nexium sex cult 109:53 up in my one of my hometowns in Albany, New York, 109:56 where I spent my high school years. 109:58 They were all over it. 109:59 They loved that story. 110:00 But this one, not so much. 110:02 And look at whatever, say what you will about Keith Ranieri. 110:04 He wasn't murdering people. 110:07 And yet in this cult, we've gone that far according to you. 110:11 I mean, what's, but no, but, but the got that the lead leader of the cult. 110:17 I mean, we can get to this, but like he's not in custody. 110:20 He's not on facing charges of murder. 110:23 it appears he's just gotten a massive pass from the feds on some of his behavior. 110:30 So the image that is shown is a booking photo of Jack Amadeus La Sota who 110:36 identifies as female and uses the alias Ziz. Hence his followers are known as 110:42 the Zizians. He is currently in federal custody in Philadelphia. However, recently 110:47 his felony Maryland state case was suspended for reasons that were 110:52 unknown. And one of the other Zizzians, one of the alleged coax 110:56 conspirators in that case was let go completely. I think what 111:02 but at the end of the day, Zizz has not been charged with any 111:08 conspiracy charges or murder or even attempted murder. The Zizzians 111:14 what makes them really different from many other cults is that 111:18 many of the members you can describe essentially as geniuses 111:22 They have degrees in STEM backgrounds, engineering, bioinformatics, space research, quantum trading. 111:32 Some of them were making hundreds of thousands of dollars a year. 111:35 Some of them had interned at NASA, for example, Ziz, Jack Lasota had interned 111:42 for NASA researching at one point solar expulsions from the sun. 111:47 So, and their educational background for many of them is quite elite. 111:51 University of Oxford, UC Berkeley, UCLA, University of Illinois, Urbana, Champaign, graduate degrees. 112:01 So they, what I uncovered is that they are very, very good at covering their tracks and 112:09 escaping accountability, faking their deaths. 112:12 Jack Lasot himself had faked his death numerous times. At the same time, particularly when they 112:17 were in California, because they held their origins in Silicon Valley as part of the rationalists 112:23 and effective altruism movement, which we're hearing a lot now from those who are warning 112:28 about the existential risk of AI, they were able to exploit the sensibilities in the courts 112:35 regarding transgenderism so they over the years in a past arrest related to ongoing 112:42 cases to attempted murder and murder they made a number of accusations in various frivolous 112:49 motion filings in the courts about how their rights were violated by transphobic law enforcement 112:54 transphobic judges and the courts in the Bay Area gave them time and listened to their 113:00 grievances. And meanwhile, one of the, in one of the attempted murder and murder 113:05 cases, the one key witness was aging Curtis Lint. And then he eventually was 113:12 assassinated in 2025 last year in a very brutal knife attack in Balejo, 113:19 California. 113:21 Do we know by whom? 113:23 The person who has been arrested for that is a Zizian member. And at one 113:30 point had applied for a marriage license with one of the other Zizian members who is facing 113:36 a murder charge in Vermont. 113:39 Oh my God. 113:40 Okay. 113:40 All right. 113:40 So let's stop one second here because I'm sure people are confused at this point. 113:44 So we know that there's like the main guy who's at the heart of the Zizian alleged 113:49 cult. 113:51 And his name is Jack La Sota and he's the leader. 113:54 He's been arrested several times. 113:56 He said he faked his death and he was eventually caught in Maryland. 113:59 but those Maryland state charges were dropped, 114:01 but he's still having to deal with the Fed. 114:02 So he's got, he's in custody right now 114:05 on some federal charges. 114:06 And he's sort of the leader of this cult, 114:09 which I love to know why veganism is if a part. 114:12 Like they got a lot of things here, Andy. 114:14 We got, we got trans. 114:15 We got veganism. 114:18 We've got violence. 114:19 Like there's a lot they stand for. 114:20 So what, what is he selling? 114:23 You know, because in any cult, 114:24 there's a cult leader who's generally very charismatic 114:27 and he's selling something to the participants. 114:29 So we're hearing a lot now about AI risk 114:33 from effective altruists. 114:35 None of them who worked at OpenAI 114:37 and Anthropic have come out to talk about 114:39 how AI will destroy the world. 114:41 But this debate has been going on 114:43 in Silicon Valley for a decade. 114:45 In Ziz and the other Zizians many years ago 114:48 have moved to the Bay Area to get involved 114:50 with the groups that hold these types of debates 114:53 and come up with ways that they think 114:55 of mitigating those risks and saving the world. 114:59 So in that type of environment, 115:01 Ziz then developed some of his own ideas. 115:04 For one, he believed that the mainstream rationalists 115:08 in EA communities weren't doing enough. 115:10 Ziz himself actually could perhaps form a vanguard 115:15 of those who would go on to quote unquote save the world 115:18 and those who would make up that vanguard 115:19 in his worldview would likely involve trans women. 115:23 and he had a belief that trans women, 115:26 and by that I'm referring to males who identify as female, 115:29 he believed they possessed certain cognitive abilities, 115:32 special cognitive abilities that made them unique and special. 115:36 So as part of his ideology, once he was recruiting people, 115:40 they developed certain beliefs 115:42 about how they could conduct human experimentations 115:46 involving sleep deprivation. 115:48 And they believed that the two cores of the brain, 115:51 the hemisphere, the right and left hemisphere, correspond to actually different identities, 115:56 one potentially being evil, one good, and therefore you have to separate the two hemispheres. 116:02 So they conducted a number of experiments on one another that caused psychoses in their members 116:09 and that ended up with several of them committing suicide. And that's been part of the story 116:14 of the Zizzians that hasn't been discussed as much in comparison to the murders. 116:18 How many, how many Zizians are there? 116:21 How many people in this cult? 116:23 So I've been able to identify around a dozen of them. 116:27 However, like with many cults and extremist groups, 116:30 there are other concentric circles and outside of that, 116:34 there are many associates who identify by name, 116:38 their real names in this book, 116:39 who have not been charged with any crimes, 116:41 but nevertheless have served very important roles in the group. 116:49 And describe why they keep crossing the wires of law enforcement because you listed a couple 116:55 of the alleged crimes that some of them have committed, but like, what is it they're doing? 117:00 You know, like a lot of these cults, they do weird things behind closed doors, but 117:03 they don't bother anybody. 117:04 Why are these guys continuously in the crosshairs of law enforcement? 117:09 So law enforcement started paying attention to them back in 2019 when the Zizians held 117:13 a direct action against a gathering of rationalists in Sonoma County, California. 117:21 In 2019 on that day they donned Guy Fox masks and wore black robes and came in costumes and 117:31 blocked off the exits and entrances to this park and created what law enforcement said 117:36 was a hostage situation. 117:38 Now this is a park where there were other children and families there so dozens of 117:42 people thought that there was an active shooter situation. 117:45 So that was when they first were charged with felony charges. 117:49 And as that case had dragged on, and then with the pandemic, 117:53 and their various tactics to waste time in the court, 117:57 also with the civil claim that they filed, 117:59 alleging transphobic abuse. 118:01 Eventually, that was then Ziz faked his death. 118:04 Another person faked his suicide. 118:06 And he disappeared. 118:07 And when Ziz was seen by law enforcement again, it was during the attempted murder of their landlord, Curtis Lent. 118:17 He was stabbed dozens of times with swords, and this is from his testimony. 118:23 He had his eye gouged out in the attack, sorry that I'm being violent, and he was impaled with a sword. 118:29 He had a firearm for self-defense. He shot one of the Zizians dead. 118:33 He miraculously survived that. 118:35 But Ziz, by the way, was seen at that area 118:40 once the police responded to the attack. 118:44 And when he was taken to the police department 118:47 to be questioned, he wasn't placed under arrest. 118:50 And all Ziz did was pretend to be unconscious. 118:54 Law enforcement thought it was a medical emergency. 118:56 They took him to hospital. 118:58 Nobody kept an eye on him, and he disappeared. 119:00 And the next time he emerged was in Philadelphia 119:03 with others in the Philadelphia area with other Zizzians. 119:07 And he was a person of interest in a double homicide case 119:10 there where the parents of one of the Zizzian members 119:13 were shot dead. 119:14 Certainly feel better about the fact 119:15 that he is in federal custody. 119:17 I was confused when I read that the Maryland authorities 119:18 had let him go, but that's good to hear 119:20 that he's not free and roaming anymore. 119:23 What do you think, Andy, is it because, 119:25 you know, we've heard a lot about trans-Tifa 119:27 outside of this group, which I never heard of before, 119:30 But it does seem like there is a, if it's not a growing cultism around transgenderism, 119:38 there's definitely growing violence. 119:40 I mean, the number of school shootings we've seen that have been committed by someone identifying 119:45 as trans, it does seem to be on the, on the upsweep. 119:49 And yet the thing you're talking about is, is another pattern of the media downplaying 119:56 or not reporting at all on the trans ideology 120:00 of the perpetrators?
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