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David Sloan Wilson - Darwinian Forces Shape the Earth Superorganism (Worthy Successor, Episode 18)
Dec 26, 2025·—
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This new installment of the Worthy Successor series is an interview with David Sloan Wilson, an American evolutionary biologist, Distinguished Professor Emeritus of Biological Sciences and Anthropology at Binghamton University, and co-founder of the Evolution Institute and ProSocial World. In this conversation, we explore what it would mean for humanity to act as a steward of evolution itself - not freezing life in its current form, but guiding its transformation toward futures that remain coherent, prosocial, and resilient over deep time. The interview is our eighteenth installment in The Trajectory’s second series, Worthy Successor, where we explore the kinds of posthuman intelligences that deserve to steer the future beyond humanity. This episode referred to the following other essays and resources: -- A Worthy Successor - The Purpose of AGI: https://danfaggella.com/worthy – ProSocial’s Eight Core Design Principles: https://www.prosocial.world/resources/resource-posts/short-core-design-principle-handout Listen to this episode on The Trajectory Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-trajectory/id1739255954 Watch the full episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/PeqlP8-ZNDQ See the full article from this episode: https://danfaggella.com/wilson1 ... There are three main questions we cover here on the Trajectory: 1. Who are the power players in AGI and what are their incentives? 2. What kind of posthuman future are we moving towards, or should we be moving towards? 3. What should we do about it? If this sounds like it's up your alley, then be sure to stick around and connect: -- Blog: danfaggella.com/trajectory -- X: x.com/danfaggella -- LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/danfaggella -- Newsletter: bit.ly/TrajectoryTw -- YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@trajectoryai

Michael Johnson - Symmetry, Beauty, and the Shape of Consciousness (Worthy Successor, Episode 17)
Dec 12, 2025·—
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This new installment of the Worthy Successor series is an interview with Michael Johnson, a philosopher and neuroscientist who describes himself as working on "how to turn consciousness into a real science." Mike is known for his formalist approach to consciousness research and his work on the Symmetry Theory of Valence at the Qualia Research Institute. In this episode, we explore Mike's radical vision of what posthuman sentience could become - and why he believes human experience represents just one tiny corner of a vast, largely unexplored space of possible minds. The interview is our seventeenth installment in The Trajectory’s second series, Worthy Successor, where we explore the kinds of posthuman intelligences that deserve to steer the future beyond humanity. This episode referred to the following other essays and resources: -- A Worthy Successor - The Purpose of AGI: https://danfaggella.com/worthy/ -- Qualia Formalism and a Symmetry Theory of Valence: https://opentheory.net/Qualia_Formalism_and_a_Symmetry_Theory_of_Valence.pdf?utm Listen to this episode on The Trajectory Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-trajectory/id1739255954 Watch the full episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/5Kh95ylhcHo See the full article from this episode: https://danfaggella.com/johnson1 ... There are three main questions we cover here on the Trajectory: 1. Who are the power players in AGI and what are their incentives? 2. What kind of posthuman future are we moving towards, or should we be moving towards? 3. What should we do about it? If this sounds like it's up your alley, then be sure to stick around and connect: -- Blog: danfaggella.com/trajectory -- X: x.com/danfaggella -- LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/danfaggella -- Newsletter: bit.ly/TrajectoryTw -- YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@trajectoryai

Robin Hanson - A Successor Must be Adaptive (Worthy Successor, Episode 16)
Nov 28, 2025·—
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This new installment of the Worthy Successor series is an interview with Robin Hanson - Associate Professor of Economics at George Mason University, economist, polymath, and author of The Age of Em. Hanson is one of the few thinkers who approaches the future of intelligence through the lens of deep evolutionary dynamics, cultural drift, and long-term civilizational viability. In this episode, we dig into Robin’s stark warning that humanity is losing the adaptive capacities that once made civilizations robust - and that without radical course correction, our current world order is likely to collapse and be replaced by a more adaptive successor. The interview is our sixteenth installment in The Trajectory’s second series, Worthy Successor, where we explore the kinds of posthuman intelligences that deserve to steer the future beyond humanity. This episode referred to the following other essays and resources: -- A Worthy Successor - The Purpose of AGI: https://danfaggella.com/worthy/ -- Explain the Sacred (By Robin Hanson): https://www.overcomingbias.com/p/explain-the-sacredhtml Listen to this episode on The Trajectory Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-trajectory/id1739255954 Watch the full episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/Rk3VvLSHCbA See the full article from this episode: https://danfaggella.com/hanson1 ... There are three main questions we cover here on the Trajectory: 1. Who are the power players in AGI and what are their incentives? 2. What kind of posthuman future are we moving towards, or should we be moving towards? 3. What should we do about it? If this sounds like it's up your alley, then be sure to stick around and connect: -- Blog: danfaggella.com/trajectory -- X: x.com/danfaggella -- LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/danfaggella -- Newsletter: bit.ly/TrajectoryTw -- YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@trajectoryai

Joe Carlsmith - A Wiser, AI-Powered Civilization is the “Successor” (Worthy Successor, Episode 15)
Nov 14, 2025·—
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This new installment of the Worthy Successor series is an interview with Joe Carlsmith, a senior advisor at Open Philanthropy, whose work spans AI alignment, moral uncertainty, and the philosophical foundations of value. In this conversation, Joe joins us in his personal capacity, not representing any brand or company, and offering his own thoughtful perspectives. In this episode, we explore Joe’s reflections on what a “worthy successor” might really mean - not as a single entity, but as a civilization guided toward greater wisdom. His framing is rare among alignment thinkers: he treats AI not as a replacement for humanity, but as a set of tools that might help us become clearer thinkers, better philosophers, and truer to what is actually good. The interview is our fifteenth installment in The Trajectory’s second series, Worthy Successor, where we explore the kinds of posthuman intelligences that deserve to steer the future beyond humanity. This episode referred to the following other essays: -- A Worthy Successor - The Purpose of AGI: https://danfaggella.com/worthy/ -- Our Final Imperatives - Humanity's Last Goals at the Dawn of AI: https://danfaggella.com/imperatives Listen to this episode on The Trajectory Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-trajectory/id1739255954 Watch the full episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/bsTwkg6eYCs See the full article from this episode: https://danfaggella.com/carlmsith1 ... There are three main questions we cover here on the Trajectory: 1. Who are the power players in AGI and what are their incentives? 2. What kind of posthuman future are we moving towards, or should we be moving towards? 3. What should we do about it? If this sounds like it's up your alley, then be sure to stick around and connect: -- Blog: danfaggella.com/trajectory -- X: x.com/danfaggella -- LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/danfaggella -- Newsletter: bit.ly/TrajectoryTw -- YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@trajectoryai

Blaise Agüera y Arcas - AGI Symbiosis and the Arrow of Intelligence (Worthy Successor, Episode 14)
Oct 31, 2025·—
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This new installment of the Worthy Successor series is an interview with Blaise Agüera y Arcas, Vice President and Fellow at Google, and CTO of Technology & Society. In this conversation, Blaise talks about how life and intelligence seem to move in a single direction - toward greater complexity and deeper interdependence. Blaise describes this movement as an arrow of evolution, shaped by cooperation and merging - from the earliest partnerships between simple organisms to the way human societies and technologies grow together. The interview is our fourteenth installment in The Trajectory’s second series, Worthy Successor, where we explore the kinds of posthuman intelligences that deserve to steer the future beyond humanity. This episode referred to the following other essay: -- A Worthy Successor - The Purpose of AGI: https://danfaggella.com/worthy/ Listen to this episode on The Trajectory Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-trajectory/id1739255954 Watch the full episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/mAtjedPGmME See the full article from this episode: https://danfaggella.com/arcas1 ... There are three main questions we cover here on the Trajectory: 1. Who are the power players in AGI and what are their incentives? 2. What kind of posthuman future are we moving towards, or should we be moving towards? 3. What should we do about it? If this sounds like it's up your alley, then be sure to stick around and connect: -- Blog: danfaggella.com/trajectory -- X: x.com/danfaggella -- LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/danfaggella -- Newsletter: bit.ly/TrajectoryTw -- YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@trajectoryai

Brad Carson - AGI Competition with Civility and Understanding (US-China AGI Relations, Episode 5)
Oct 24, 2025·—
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This is an interview with Brad Carson, who served as a U.S. Congressman and as Under Secretary of the Army. Later, he served as the Acting Under Secretary of Defense for Personnel & Readiness, and now serves as President of Americans for Responsible Innovation (ARI). You might expect someone with deep roots in national security to see AGI through a purely competitive lens - a technological arms race to be won at any cost. Instead, Brad’s focus is on responsibility, understanding, and restraint: how to sustain moral clarity in a domain where the stakes will rival those of nuclear deterrence, and where fear itself could become a strategic liability. This is the fifth installment of our "US-China AGI Relations" series - where we explore pathways to achieving international AGI cooperation while avoiding conflicts and arms races. Listen to this episode on The Trajectory Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-trajectory/id1739255954 Watch the full episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/N7TNfdUAnxs See the full article from this episode: https://danfaggella.com/carson1 … There are three main questions we cover here on the Trajectory: 1. Who are the power players in AGI and what are their incentives? 2. What kind of posthuman future are we moving towards, or should we be moving towards? 3. What should we do about it? If this sounds like it's up your alley, then be sure to stick around and connect: -- Blog: danfaggella.com/trajectory -- X: x.com/danfaggella -- LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/danfaggella -- Newsletter: bit.ly/TrajectoryTw -- YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@trajectoryai

Irakli Beridze - Can the UN Help with Global AGI Governance? (AGI Governance, Episode 11)
Oct 10, 2025·—
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Joining us in our eleventh episode of our series AGI Governance on The Trajectory is Irakli Beridze, Director of the UNICRI Centre for Artificial Intelligence and Robotics under the United Nations mandate. In this conversation, Irakli draws a stark contrast between yesterday’s arms-control templates and tomorrow’s AI. Chemical weapons were narrow, outdated, and ultimately unwanted. By contrast, advanced AI is general-purpose, fast-accelerating, and universally desirable - which makes governance both harder and more urgent. Listen to this episode on The Trajectory Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-trajectory/id1739255954 Watch the full episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/ifxGca0uMFc See the full article from this episode: https://danfaggella.com/beridze1 ... There are three main questions we cover here on the Trajectory: 1. Who are the power players in AGI and what are their incentives? 2. What kind of posthuman future are we moving towards, or should we be moving towards? 3. What should we do about it? If this sounds like it's up your alley, then be sure to stick around and connect: -- Blog: danfaggella.com/trajectory -- X: x.com/danfaggella -- LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/danfaggella -- Newsletter: bit.ly/TrajectoryTw -- YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@trajectoryai

Dean Xue Lan - A Multi-Pronged Approach to Pre-AGI Coordination (AGI Governance, Episode 10)
Oct 3, 2025·—
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Joining us in our tenth episode of our AGI Governance series on The Trajectory is Dean Xue Lan, longtime scholar of public policy and global governance, whose recent work centers on AI safety and international coordination. In this episode, Xue stresses that AGI governance must evolve as an adaptive network. The UN can set frameworks among nations, but companies, safety institutes, and industry associations also play critical roles. Only through combining these overlapping layers can governance respond to the challenges of an unprecedented technology. Listen to this episode on The Trajectory Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-trajectory/id1739255954 Watch the full episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/-HLjD6FRjug See the full article from this episode: https://danfaggella.com/lan1 ... There are three main questions we cover here on the Trajectory: 1. Who are the power players in AGI and what are their incentives? 2. What kind of posthuman future are we moving towards, or should we be moving towards? 3. What should we do about it? If this sounds like it's up your alley, then be sure to stick around and connect: -- Blog: danfaggella.com/trajectory -- X: x.com/danfaggella -- LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/danfaggella -- Newsletter: bit.ly/TrajectoryTw -- YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@trajectoryai

RAND’s Joel Predd - Competitive and Cooperative Dynamics of AGI (US-China AGI Relations, Episode 4)
Sep 26, 2025·—
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This is an interview with Joel Predd, a senior engineer at the RAND Corporation and co-author of RAND’s work on “five hard national security problems from AGI,”. In this conversation, Joel lays out a sober frame for leaders: treat AGI as technically credible but deeply uncertain; assume it will be transformational if it arrives; and recognize that the pace of progress is outstripping our capacity for governance. This is the fourth installment of our "US-China AGI Relations" series - where we explore pathways to achieving international AGI cooperation while avoiding conflicts and arms races. This episode referred to the following other essays and resources: Artificial General Intelligence's Five Hard National Security Problems: https://www.rand.org/pubs/perspectives/PEA3691-4.html? Types of AI Disasters – Uniting and Dividing: https://danfaggella.com/disaster/ Listen to this episode on The Trajectory Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-trajectory/id1739255954 Watch the full episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/Ojg9l5q-gao See the full article from this episode: https://danfaggella.com/predd1 … There are three main questions we cover here on the Trajectory: 1. Who are the power players in AGI and what are their incentives? 2. What kind of posthuman future are we moving towards, or should we be moving towards? 3. What should we do about it? If this sounds like it's up your alley, then be sure to stick around and connect: -- Blog: danfaggella.com/trajectory -- X: x.com/danfaggella -- LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/danfaggella -- Newsletter: bit.ly/TrajectoryTw -- YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@trajectoryai

Drew Cukor - AI Adoption as a National Security Priority (US-China AGI Relations, Episode 3)
Sep 19, 2025·—
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USMC Colonel Drew Cukor spent 25 years as decades in uniform and helped spearhead early Department of Defense AI efforts, eventually leading project including the Pentagon’s Project Maven. After government service, he’s led AI initiatives in the private sector, first with JP Morgan and now with TWG Global. Drew argues that when it comes to the US-China AGI race, the decisive lever isn’t what we block – it’s what we adopt. The nation that most completely fuses people and machines across daily life, industry, and government will set the tempo for everyone else. This is the third installment of our "US-China AGI Relations" series - where we explore pathways to achieving international AGI cooperation while avoiding conflicts and arms races. Listen to this episode on The Trajectory Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-trajectory/id1739255954 Watch the full episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/GnO4dRHBzKI See the full article from this episode: https://danfaggella.com/cukor1 ... There are three main questions we cover here on the Trajectory: 1. Who are the power players in AGI and what are their incentives? 2. What kind of posthuman future are we moving towards, or should we be moving towards? 3. What should we do about it? If this sounds like it's up your alley, then be sure to stick around and connect: -- Blog: danfaggella.com/trajectory -- X: x.com/danfaggella -- LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/danfaggella -- Newsletter: bit.ly/TrajectoryTw -- YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@trajectoryai

Stuart Russell - Avoiding the Cliff of Uncontrollable AI (AGI Governance, Episode 9)
Sep 12, 2025·—
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Joining us in our ninth episode of our AGI Governance series on The Trajectory is Stuart Russell, Professor of Computer Science at UC Berkeley and author of Human Compatible . In this episode, Stuart explores why current AI race dynamics resemble a prisoner’s dilemma, why governments must establish enforceable red lines, and how international coordination might begin with consensus principles before tackling more difficult challenges. This episode referred to the following other resources: -- IDAIS, co-convened by Stuart: https://idais.ai/ Listen to this episode on The Trajectory Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-trajectory/id1739255954 Watch the full episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/w0U5V86TMjo See the full article from this episode: https://danfaggella.com/russell1 ... There are three main questions we cover here on the Trajectory: 1. Who are the power players in AGI and what are their incentives? 2. What kind of posthuman future are we moving towards, or should we be moving towards? 3. What should we do about it? If this sounds like it's up your alley, then be sure to stick around and connect: -- Blog: danfaggella.com/trajectory -- X: x.com/danfaggella -- LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/danfaggella -- Newsletter: bit.ly/TrajectoryTw -- YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@trajectoryai

Craig Mundie - Co-Evolution with AI: Industry First, Regulators Later (AGI Governance, Episode 8)
Sep 5, 2025·—
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Joining us in our eighth episode of our AGI Governance series on The Trajectory is Craig Mundie, former Chief Research and Strategy Officer at Microsoft and longtime advisor on the evolution of digital infrastructure, AI, and national security. In this episode, Craig and I explore how bottom-up governance could emerge from commercial pressures and cross-national enterprise collaboration, and how this pragmatic foundation might lead us into a future of symbiotic co-evolution rather than catastrophic conflict. Listen to this episode on The Trajectory Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-trajectory/id1739255954 Watch the full episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/Utt-Q8hjF5c See the full article from this episode: https://danfaggella.com/mundie1 ... There are three main questions we cover here on the Trajectory: 1. Who are the power players in AGI and what are their incentives? 2. What kind of posthuman future are we moving towards, or should we be moving towards? 3. What should we do about it? If this sounds like it's up your alley, then be sure to stick around and connect: -- Blog: danfaggella.com/trajectory -- X: x.com/danfaggella -- LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/danfaggella -- Newsletter: bit.ly/TrajectoryTw -- YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@trajectoryai

Jeremie and Edouard Harris - What Makes US-China Alignment Around AGI So Hard (US-China AGI Relations, Episode 2)
Aug 29, 2025·—
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This is an interview with Jeremie and Edouard Harris, Canadian researchers with backgrounds in AI governance and national security consulting, and co-founders of Gladstone AI. In this episode, Jeremie and Edouard explain why trusting China on AGI is dangerous, highlight ongoing espionage in Western labs, explore verification tools like tamper-proof chips, and argue that slowing China’s AI progress may be vital for safe alignment. This the second installment of our "US-China AGI Relations" series - where we explore pathways to achieving international AGI cooperation while avoiding conflicts and arms races. This episode referred to the following other essays: -- The International Governance of AI – We Unite or We Fight: https://emerj.com/international-governance-ai/ -- Potentia and Potestas: Achieving The Goldilocks Zone of AGI Governance: https://danfaggella.com/potestas Listen to this episode on The Trajectory Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-trajectory/id1739255954 Watch the full episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/jf6Oy3C3mLA See the full article from this episode: https://danfaggella.com/harris1 ... There are three main questions we cover here on the Trajectory: 1. Who are the power players in AGI and what are their incentives? 2. What kind of posthuman future are we moving towards, or should we be moving towards? 3. What should we do about it? If this sounds like it's up your alley, then be sure to stick around and connect: -- Blog: danfaggella.com/trajectory -- X: x.com/danfaggella -- LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/danfaggella -- Newsletter: bit.ly/TrajectoryTw -- YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@trajectoryai

Ed Boyden - Neurobiology as a Bridge to a Worthy Successor (Worthy Successor, Episode 13)
Aug 22, 2025·—
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This new installment of the Worthy Successor series features Ed Boyden, an American neuroscientist and entrepreneur at MIT, widely known for his work on optogenetics and brain simulation - his breakthroughs have helped shape the frontier of neurotechnology. In this episode, we explore Ed’s vision for what kinds of posthuman intelligences deserve to inherit the future. His deep commitment to “ground truth” - the idea that intelligence must be built from and validated against reality, not just simulated within it - is a theme that resonates across this interview. The interview is our thirteenth installment in The Trajectory’s second series, Worthy Successor, where we explore the kinds of posthuman intelligences that deserve to steer the future beyond humanity. This episode referred to the following other essay: -- A Worthy Successor - The Purpose of AGI: https://danfaggella.com/worthy/ Listen to this episode on The Trajectory Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-trajectory/id1739255954 Watch the full episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/fqomhMhFQzo See the full article from this episode: https://danfaggella.com/boyden1 ... There are three main questions we cover here on the Trajectory: 1. Who are the power players in AGI and what are their incentives? 2. What kind of posthuman future are we moving towards, or should we be moving towards? 3. What should we do about it? If this sounds like it's up your alley, then be sure to stick around and connect: -- Blog: danfaggella.com/trajectory -- X: x.com/danfaggella -- LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/danfaggella -- Newsletter: bit.ly/TrajectoryTw -- YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@trajectoryai

Roman Yampolskiy - The Blacker the Box, the Bigger the Risk (Early Experience of AGI, Episode 3)
Aug 15, 2025·—
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This is an interview with Roman V. Yampolskiy, a computer scientist at the University of Louisville and a leading voice in AI safety. Everyone has heard Roman's p(doom) arguments, that isn't the focus of our interview. We instead talk about Roman's "untestability" hypothesis, and the fact that there maybe untold, human-incomprehensible powers already in current LLMs. He discusses how such powers might emerge, and when and how a "treacherous turn" might happen. This is the Third episode in our new “Early Experience of AGI” series - where we explore the early impacts of AGI on our work and personal lives. Listen to this episode on The Trajectory Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-trajectory/id1739255954 Watch the full episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/Jycmc_yIkU0 See the full article from this episode: https://danfaggella.com/yampolskiy1 ... There are three main questions we cover here on the Trajectory: 1. Who are the power players in AGI and what are their incentives? 2. What kind of posthuman future are we moving towards, or should we be moving towards? 3. What should we do about it? If this sounds like it's up your alley, then be sure to stick around and connect: -- Blog: danfaggella.com/trajectory -- X: x.com/danfaggella -- LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/danfaggella -- Newsletter: bit.ly/TrajectoryTw -- YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@trajectoryai

Toby Ord - Crucial Updates on the Evolving AGI Risk Landscape (AGI Governance, Episode 7)
Aug 12, 2025·—
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Joining us in our seventh episode of our series AGI Governance on The Trajectory is Toby Ord, Senior Researcher at Oxford University’s AI Governance Initiative and author of The Precipice: Existential Risk and the Future of Humanity. Toby is one of the world’s most influential thinkers on long-term risk - and one of the clearest voices on how advanced AI could shape, or shatter, the trajectory of human civilization. In this episode, Toby unpacks the evolving technical and economic landscape of AGI - particularly the implications of model deployment, imitation learning, and the limits of current training paradigms. He draws on his unique position as both a moral philosopher and a close observer of recent AI breakthroughs to highlight shifts that could alter the pace and nature of AGI progress. Listen to this episode on The Trajectory Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-trajectory/id1739255954 Watch the full episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/TIz9TpVCFcQ See the full article from this episode: https://danfaggella.com/ord1 ... There are three main questions we cover here on the Trajectory: 1. Who are the power players in AGI and what are their incentives? 2. What kind of posthuman future are we moving towards, or should we be moving towards? 3. What should we do about it? If this sounds like it's up your alley, then be sure to stick around and connect: -- Blog: danfaggella.com/trajectory -- X: x.com/danfaggella -- LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/danfaggella -- Newsletter: bit.ly/TrajectoryTw -- YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@trajectoryai

Martin Rees - If They’re Conscious, We Should Step Aside (Worthy Successor, Episode 12)
Aug 1, 2025·—
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This new installment of the Worthy Successor series is an interview with the brilliant Martin Rees - British cosmologist, astrophysicist, and 60th President of the Royal Society. In this interview we explore his belief that humanity is just a stepping stone between Darwinian life and a new form of intelligent design - not divinely ordained, but constructed by artificial minds building successors of their own. For Martin, the true tragedy would not be losing our species, but squandering the opportunity to seed a vastly more diverse and potent future. The interview is our twelfth installment in The Trajectory’s second series, Worthy Successor , where we explore the kinds of posthuman intelligences that deserve to steer the future beyond humanity. This episode referred to the following other essay: -- A Worthy Successor - The Purpose of AGI: https://danfaggella.com/worthy/ Listen to this episode on The Trajectory Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-trajectory/id1739255954 Watch the full episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/3rmxydNqsoU See the full article from this episode: https://danfaggella.com/rees1 ... There are three main questions we cover here on the Trajectory: 1. Who are the power players in AGI and what are their incentives? 2. What kind of posthuman future are we moving towards, or should we be moving towards? 3. What should we do about it? If this sounds like it's up your alley, then be sure to stick around and connect: -- Blog: danfaggella.com/trajectory -- X: x.com/danfaggella -- LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/danfaggella -- Newsletter: bit.ly/TrajectoryTw -- YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@trajectoryai

Emmett Shear - AGI as "Another Kind of Cell" in the Tissue of Life (Worthy Successor, Episode 11)
Jul 18, 2025·—
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This is an interview with Emmett Shear - CEO of SoftMax, co-founder of Twitch, former interim CEO of OpenAI, and one of the few public-facing tech leaders who seems to take both AGI development and AGI alignment seriously. In this episode, we explore Emmett’s vision of AGI as a kind of living system, not unlike a new kind of cell, joining the tissue of intelligent life. We talk through the limits of our moral vocabulary, the obligations we might owe to future digital minds, and the uncomfortable trade-offs between safety and stagnation. The interview is our eleventh installment in The Trajectory’s second series Worthy Successor, where we explore the kinds of posthuman intelligences that deserve to steer the future beyond humanity. This episode referred to the following other essay: -- A Worthy Successor - The Purpose of AGI: https://danfaggella.com/worthy/ Listen to this episode on The Trajectory Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-trajectory/id1739255954 Watch the full episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNz25BSZNfM See the full article from this episode: https://danfaggella.com/shear1 ... There are three main questions we cover here on the Trajectory: 1. Who are the power players in AGI and what are their incentives? 2. What kind of posthuman future are we moving towards, or should we be moving towards? 3. What should we do about it? If this sounds like it's up your alley, then be sure to stick around and connect: -- Blog: danfaggella.com/trajectory -- X: x.com/danfaggella -- LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/danfaggella -- Newsletter: bit.ly/TrajectoryTw -- YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@trajectoryai

Joshua Clymer - Where Human Civilization Might Crumble First (Early Experience of AGI - Episode 2)
Jul 4, 2025·—
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This is an interview with Joshua Clymer, AI safety researcher at Redwood Research, and former researcher at METR. Joshua has spent years focused on institutional readiness for AGI, especially the kinds of governance bottlenecks that could become breaking points. His thinking is less about far-off futures and more about near-term institutional failure modes - the brittle places that might shatter first. In this episode, Joshua and I discuss where AGI pressure might rupture our systems: intelligence agencies, the military, tech labs, and the veil of classification that surrounds them. What struck me most in this conversation with Joshua was his grounded honesty. He doesn’t offer easy predictions - just hard-won insight from years near the edge. This is the second episode in our new “Early Experience of AGI” series - where we explore the early impacts of AGI on our work and personal lives. This episode referred to the following other essay: -- Josh's X thread titled "How AI Might Take Over in 2 Years": -- Closing the Human Reward Circuit: https://danfaggella.com/reward Listen to this episode on The Trajectory Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-trajectory/id1739255954 Watch the full episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/yMPJKjutm7M See the full article from this episode: https://danfaggella.com/clymer1 ... There are three main questions we cover here on the Trajectory: 1. Who are the power players in AGI and what are their incentives? 2. What kind of posthuman future are we moving towards, or should we be moving towards? 3. What should we do about it? If this sounds like it's up your alley, then be sure to stick around and connect: -- Blog: danfaggella.com/trajectory -- X: x.com/danfaggella -- LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/danfaggella -- Newsletter: bit.ly/TrajectoryTw -- YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@trajectoryai
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Peter Singer - Optimizing the Future for Joy, and the Exploration of the Good [Worthy Successor, Episode 10]
Jun 20, 2025·—
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This is an interview with Peter Singer, one of the most influential moral philosophers of our time. Singer is best known for his groundbreaking work on animal rights, global poverty, and utilitarian ethics, and his ideas have shaped countless conversations about the moral obligations of individuals, governments, and societies. This interview is our tenth installment in The Trajectory’s second series Worthy Successor , where we explore the kinds of posthuman intelligences that deserve to steer the future beyond humanity. This episode referred to the following other essay: -- A Worthy Successor - The Purpose of AGI: https://danfaggella.com/worthy -- Singer's Podcast "Lives Well Lived" - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/lives-well-lived/id1743702376 Listen to this episode on The Trajectory Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-trajectory/id1739255954 Watch the full episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFxFj-WrZS0 See the full article from this episode: https://danfaggella.com/singer1/ ... There three main questions we cover here on the Trajectory: 1. Who are the power players in AGI and what are their incentives? 2. What kind of posthuman future are we moving towards, or should we be moving towards? 3. What should we do about it? If this sounds like it's up your alley, then be sure to stick around and connect: -- Blog: danfaggella.com/trajectory -- X: x.com/danfaggella -- LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/danfaggella -- Newsletter: bit.ly/TrajectoryTw -- YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@trajectoryai
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David Duvenaud - What are Humans Even Good For in Five Years? [Early Experience of AGI - Episode 1]
Jun 6, 2025·—
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This is an interview with David Duvenaud, Assistant Professor at University of Toronto, co-author of the Gradual Disempowerment paper, and former researcher at Anthropic. This is the first episode in our new “Early Experience of AGI” series - where we explore the early impacts of AGI on our work and personal lives. This episode referred to the following other essays and resources: -- Closing the Human Reward Circuit: https://danfaggella.com/reward -- Gradual Disempowerment: http://www.gradual-disempowerment.ai Watch the full episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/XPpg89K3ULM See the full article from this episode: https://danfaggella.com/duvenaud1 ... There three main questions we cover here on the Trajectory: 1. Who are the power players in AGI and what are their incentives? 2. What kind of posthuman future are we moving towards, or should we be moving towards? 3. What should we do about it? If this sounds like it's up your alley, then be sure to stick around and connect: -- Blog: danfaggella.com/trajectory -- X: x.com/danfaggella -- LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/danfaggella -- Newsletter: bit.ly/TrajectoryTw -- Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-trajectory/id1739255954
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Kristian Rönn - A Blissful Successor Beyond Darwinian Life [Worthy Successor, Episode 9]
May 23, 2025·—
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This is an interview with Kristian Rönn, author, successful startup founder, and now CEO of Lucid, and AI hardware governance startup based in SF. This is an additional installment of our "Worthy Successor" series - where we explore the kinds of posthuman intelligences that deserve to steer the future beyond humanity. This episode referred to the following other essays and resources: -- A Worthy Successor - The Purpose of AGI: https://danfaggella.com/worthy -- Kristian's "Darwinian Trap" book: https://www.amazon.com/Darwinian-Trap-Evolutionary-Explain-Threaten/dp/0593594053 Watch this episode on The Trajectory YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSnYeCc_C6I See the full article from this episode: https://danfaggella.com/ronn1 ... There three main questions we cover here on the Trajectory: 1. Who are the power players in AGI and what are their incentives? 2. What kind of posthuman future are we moving towards, or should we be moving towards? 3. What should we do about it? If this sounds like it's up your alley, then be sure to stick around and connect: -- Blog: danfaggella.com/trajectory -- X: x.com/danfaggella -- LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/danfaggella -- Newsletter: bit.ly/TrajectoryTw -- Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-trajectory/id1739255954
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Jack Shanahan - Avoiding an AI Race While Keeping America Strong [US-China AGI Relations, Episode 1]
May 9, 2025·—
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This is an interview with Jack Shanahan, a three-star General and former Director of the Joint AI Center (JAIC) within the US Department of Defense. This the first installment of our "US-China AGI Relations" series - where we explore pathways to achieving international AGI cooperation while avoiding conflicts and arms races. This episode referred to the following other essays and resources: -- The International Governance of AI – We Unite or We Fight: https://emerj.com/international-governance-ai/ -- Potentia and Potestas: Achieving The Goldilocks Zone of AGI Governance: https://danfaggella.com/potestas Watch to this episode on The Trajectory YouTube Channel: https://youtu.be/kwFu_hrAM4k See the full article from this episode: https://danfaggella.com/shanahan1 ... There three main questions we cover here on the Trajectory: 1. Who are the power players in AGI and what are their incentives? 2. What kind of posthuman future are we moving towards, or should we be moving towards? 3. What should we do about it? If this sounds like it's up your alley, then be sure to stick around and connect: -- Blog: danfaggella.com/trajectory -- X: x.com/danfaggella -- LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/danfaggella -- Newsletter: bit.ly/TrajectoryTw -- YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@trajectoryai
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Richard Ngo - A State-Space of Positive Posthuman Futures [Worthy Successor, Episode 8]
Apr 25, 2025·—
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This is an interview with Richard Ngo, AGI researcher and thinker - with extensive stints at both OpenAI and DeepMind. This is an additional installment of our "Worthy Successor" series - where we explore the kinds of posthuman intelligences that deserve to steer the future beyond humanity. This episode referred to the following other essays and resources: -- A Worthy Successor - The Purpose of AGI: https://danfaggella.com/worthy -- Richard's exploratory fiction writing - http://narrativeark.xyz/ Watch this episode on The Trajectory YouTube channel: https://youtu.be/UQpds4PXMjQ See the full article from this episode: https://danfaggella.com/ngo1 ... There three main questions we cover here on the Trajectory: 1. Who are the power players in AGI and what are their incentives? 2. What kind of posthuman future are we moving towards, or should we be moving towards? 3. What should we do about it? If this sounds like it's up your alley, then be sure to stick around and connect: -- Blog: danfaggella.com/trajectory -- X: x.com/danfaggella -- LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/danfaggella -- Newsletter: bit.ly/TrajectoryTw -- Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-trajectory/id1739255954
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Yi Zeng - Exploring 'Virtue' and Goodness Through Posthuman Minds [AI Safety Connect, Episode 2]
Apr 11, 2025·—
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This is an interview with Yi Zeng, Professor at the Chinese Academy of Sciences, a member of the United Nations High-Level Advisory Body on AI, and leader of the Beijing Institute for AI Safety and Governance (among many other accolades). Over a year ago when I asked Jaan Tallinn "who within the UN advisory group on AI has good ideas about AGI and governance?" he mentioned Yi immediately. Jaan was right. See the full article from this episode: https://danfaggella.com/zeng1 Watch the full episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/jNfnYUcBlmM This episode referred to the following other essays and resources: -- AI Safety Connect - https://aisafetyconnect.com -- Yi's profile on the Chinese Academy of Sciences - https://braincog.ai/~yizeng/ ... There three main questions we cover here on the Trajectory: 1. Who are the power players in AGI and what are their incentives? 2. What kind of posthuman future are we moving towards, or should we be moving towards? 3. What should we do about it? If this sounds like it's up your alley, then be sure to stick around and connect: -- Blog: danfaggella.com/trajectory -- X: x.com/danfaggella -- LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/danfaggella -- Newsletter: bit.ly/TrajectoryTw -- YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@trajectoryai


