You’re not imagining it—your overflowing junk drawer might actually be spiking your cortisol. In this refreshing and practical episode, The Forties Formula podcast co-hosts Jasmin Dhillon and Amanda Lim sit down with NATHALIE RICAUD , professional home organiser and founder of Get Organised & Beyond , to talk about how the clutter in our homes isn’t just a visual nuisance—it’s deeply emotional. Especially for women navigating midlife transitions. We explore how our relationship with stuff shifts after 40, why decluttering is about far more than minimalism, and how the simple act of tidying can spark real transformation—not just in your house, but in your head. Get reminded that: Decluttering is never just about stuff . It’s a doorway into your values, your habits, and your sense of control—especially in seasons of change. That midlife “stuff” often tells a story. From clothes that no longer fit to kids’ artwork to inherited furniture, Nathalie explains how our clutter is often tied to identity and memory. Decision fatigue is real. Decluttering requires hundreds of micro-decisions. Nathalie shares ways to reduce overwhelm and build momentum. Letting go doesn’t mean letting go of the person or memory. Nathalie reframes guilt and nostalgia, showing how you can honour someone without keeping every item. Systems beat motivation. Consistency wins over intensity. A good system ensures your space works with you—not against you. Whether you’re downsizing, nesting, or just done living under a pile of “maybe one day” items, this episode is your permission slip to reset—with less shame and more strategy. ----- CHAPTERS 03:12 Why clutter peaks in midlife 06:58 The emotional weight of our “stuff” 11:40 The myth of the perfect minimalist home 15:25 Decision fatigue and how to overcome it 18:50 What to do when your family won’t let go 22:33 Organising for personality types 27:45 Creating systems that actually work 31:10 How clutter reflects your values and identity 35:15 Starting small: where to begin today 38:22 One thing to declutter this weekend ----- Special Thanks to Our Sponsor: 🥩 The Meat Club – Get $12 off your first order with code TFF12 ______________ 📩 Join our mailing list for exclusive content, our weekly Friday FOURPlay newsletter, expert tips, and early access to giveaways!