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Most leaders are taught to keep parts of themselves out of the room.
What they don't realize is that hiding the wound is what slowly drains the leader.
In this Breakdown of our Inner Work conversation with Carol Klocek, CEO of Center for Transforming Lives, MaryAnn Means-Dufrene and co-host Karen Finn unpack what it actually means to lead from a self-concept you can see clearly — and what shame, silence, and the survival patterns we're praised for are quietly costing us.
Carol shared on the original episode that she's a product of significant childhood trauma, and that early in her career a well-intentioned colleague told her not to talk about her family. The advice probably fit its time. The shame that grew around it did not.
In this Breakdown, Karen and MaryAnn explore why healing isn't a leadership luxury, what trauma actually looks like inside a working environment — the missed deadline, the overreaction to feedback, the chronic overwork — and why the self-critic that drove you here may not be the voice you want driving what comes next.
They get into managing your own gas tank, why sprints without recovery are how burnout gets built, and why curiosity is the single most underused leadership practice — the gateway, as Karen puts it, to empathy with others and with yourself.
If you're a leader who's started to notice the same patterns showing up that you swore you'd outgrown, this conversation will give you language.
Here's a glimpse of what you'll learn:
00:19 Welcome Dance Break
00:41 Luncheon Carol Ek Context
01:57 Workplace Shame Story
04:04 Owning Your Narrative
07:05 Healing as Leadership Skill
09:27 Awareness Resources and Crisis
11:55 Trauma in the Workplace
13:59 Triggers Nervous System Patterns
17:56 Trauma Informed Teams
19:57 Psychological Safety Vulnerability
20:56 Self Critic Discussion
21:22 Befriending Self Critic
23:25 Balancing Voices Within
24:27 High Care High Bar
24:54 Real Self Care Habits
26:50 Managing Your Gas Tank
27:26 Overwork Warning Signs
32:44 Sprints Need Recovery
33:41 Pedicures Versus Burnout
36:30 Curiosity Builds Empathy
37:51 Closing Reflections
About the Co-Host Karen Finney is a coach, longtime collaborator on Inner Work, and co-host of The Breakdown Series. She brings warmth, clinical clarity, and lived experience to conversations about how personal patterns shape professional life — and she's the co-host who'll happily tell you when you've stopped managing your gas tank.
🔗 Connect with Karen:https://www.linkedin.com/in/karenfinney If you'd like to listen to the original Inner
Work conversation with Carol Klocek that this Breakdown unpacks: https://www.collectivegrowthleadership.com/blog/025
If you're an executive who can feel the cost of pushing through and you're ready to lead from a clearer place: 👉 https://collectivegrowthleadership.com/book-call #leadershipdevelopment #innerwork #traumainformedleadership #executiveleadership #selfawareness