In today's episode we have Steve Carroll, CEO and Co-Founder of Kelso Industries, join us to share his journey from a small-town construction background to leading a 25-acquisition HVAC roll-up. We dive into his Walmart days scaling EBITDA from $15M to $250M, his views on where PE firms get it wrong, and how Kelso’s long-term partnership model is flipping the script on traditional roll-ups. [00:00] Steve Carroll joins to discuss Kelso Industries' growth from 1st to 25th acquisition [00:27] Background: Walmart experience and scaling from $15M to $250M EBITDA [00:54] Early years: rural Oregon, construction, MBA, and entrepreneurial itch [01:50] Lessons from Walmart and foundation of Kelso [02:21] Mistake PE firms make: copying each other, bidding up same assets [03:05] Advice: PE should pursue untapped markets and take first-mover risks [04:21] Kelso's differentiator: deep focus on one long-term strategy [05:49] “All in” mindset and scaling Kelso as one big platform [06:18] First acquisition story: moving to AZ, transition challenges [07:46] Struggles, COVID, and lessons learned from initial takeover [08:43] Pivot to partnership model after burnout and realization [09:42] Defining partnership: skin in the game, shared long-term vision [11:08] Case study: Pancho in Idaho becomes the blueprint for future deals [13:03] Criteria for Kelso partnerships and alignment with long-term goals [14:00] Integration learnings: then vs. now at deal #25 [14:50] Kelso now offers finance, legal, HR, recruiting, and systems support [17:44] Operational push: MEP+ and one-call solution model [18:43] Scale enabling better integration and centralized resources [19:12] Raw Selection salary reports plug [20:11] Top 3 learnings: partnership, finance investment, data center boom [23:23] Walmart story: monetizing eyeballs, retail media, Sam’s Club success [26:17] Building a $250M EBITDA business unit through creative thinking [27:42] Why HVAC: passion, mission-critical systems, smartest people on site [28:49] Key influence: Brad Jacobs and “How to Make a Few Billion Dollars” Connect with Steve Carroll on LinkedIn. Thanks for tuning in. Subscribe for more episodes on iTunes & Spotify Got feedback or questions? Email Alex at
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