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Some marriages get tested by distance. This one got tested by war, by silence, and by a version of a man that combat left behind.
In this episode, I sit down with Marcus Capone, a retired Navy SEAL of 13 years, and his wife Amber Capone, co-founder and CEO of VETS (Veterans Exploring Treatment Solutions). We walk through the true cost of elite military service and their recovery, individually and as a couple. Marcus speaks candidly about compartmentalization, a survival skill that protects a SEAL in combat but erodes his home life, his drinking habits, treatments that failed him, and a period when suicide felt logical. Amber talks about her resentment and the personal work that freed her from waiting to be rescued.
It's a story of refusing to stay stuck, and of a treatment that changed everything afterward.
What we explore:
- How deployment trains you to compartmentalize, and why that skill quietly erodes a marriage.
- Why conventional PTSD treatments failed Marcus, and the undiagnosed traumatic brain injury behind it.
- What ibogaine treatment actually involves and what shifts after.
- How Amber healed through therapy, faith, and surrender rather than waiting on Marcus.
- Why heavy drinking and pharmaceuticals became coping tools, and what finally broke the cycle.
- Why roughly 17 veterans die by suicide daily, and what VETS is building to change it.
Chapters:
00:00 A Navy SEAL Couple's Journey to Healing
02:17 Choosing the SEAL Path After 9/11
06:17 Raising Kids Alone as a SEAL Wife
11:41 The BUD/S Mindset That Changes You
16:21 What Constant Deployments Do to a Family
18:09 How SEAL Wives Compartmentalize Marriage
21:26 Life After the Teams and Losing Purpose
29:35 Why He Left the SEALs for Banking
35:24 The Therapy Breakthrough That Saved Amber
43:34 How Suicidal Thoughts Start With Numbing
45:57 Why Ibogaine Worked After Everything Failed
52:56 What Happens During an Ibogaine Trip
01:01:00 How Amber Saw Her Husband Change
01:05:08 Fighting FDA Barriers to Fund Veteran Healing
01:08:31 How to Support Veterans With PTSD
About Marcus and Amber Capone:
Marcus Capone served 13 years as a U.S. Navy SEAL before facing a harder battle at home: depression, TBI, PTSD, and treatments that never held. Amber Capone supported that career while raising their family, then drove the search for what conventional medicine missed. In 2019 they co-founded VETS, a nonprofit expanding access to psychedelic-assisted therapies for veterans through treatment grants, research, and policy reform
Connect with Marcus and Amber Capone:
Website: https://thecapones.com
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@conversationswiththecapones
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/marcus_amber_capone
Podcast: https://open.spotify.com/show/4ssUKN0CoCBU0SRDqFCYIu
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The Gabby Reece Show
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