This particular episode has been painful to edit. I've been sitting on it for over a year. Just before I was going to share it with you in 2022, Dan Palmer passed away aged 47. It has taken me this long to pluck up the courage to revisit our conversation - and it is now with love and respect for my dear friend Dan that I release this conversation. This week his film Reading Landscape is also going live - sharing the observational design practices of permaculture founder David Holmgren. Dan and I shared a love of permaculture, living systems design. I felt we were kind of kindred spirits and I really valued how deeply and intensely he cared about the world and humanity - how he was not only full of ideas but he got out and made so many happen! Dan launched Permablitz in Melbourne, co-created the permaculture design and education business Very Edible Garden, and was an avid permaculture design teacher. He hosted a podcast ( which I joined him on ) called Making Permaculture Stronger and I loved listening to his exploration of permaculture in relation to Holistic Decision Making and what he described as a Living Design Process. I miss Dan. I wish he was still with us. I hope you enjoy tuning into our conversation. I'd love to hear from you. Text me here. Support the show _____________________________ Subscribe to this podcast, share widely, leave a comment and a 5 star review to help these stories myceliate far. Check out the Sense-Making in a Changing World podcast website & Youtube channel This podcast is hosted by Morag Gamble , founder of the Permaculture Education Institute - the leading-edge international online school for integrated permaculture design, education, leadership and [pr]activism. Explore Morag Gamble's Permaculture Educators Program Talk with Morag here about this program. Find more of Morag's conversations on the Our Permaculture Life YouTube and the Festival of Wild Ideas . This podcast is broadcast from a solar powered studio in the midst of a permaculture ecovillage on Jinibara & Gubbi Gubbi country.