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Joe Consorti is Head of Growth at Horizon and Theya, a Bitcoin and global capital markets researcher, and a leading voice at the intersection of Bitcoin, institutional finance, and real estate innovation.
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🕑 TIMESTAMPS
00:00 – Why Bitcoin makes sense
01:55 – Joe’s red-pill moment during college lockdowns
03:56 – How fiat money makes college unaffordable by design
06:39 – Bitcoin as the apex hedge against fiat distortion
09:00 – What GDP obsession actually costs a society
10:55 – The Fed's real mandate: keep the illusion alive
13:12 – Why letting free markets work would’ve been better in 2020
17:39 – How fiat incentives destroy long-term thinking
19:18 – The U.S. debt spiral—and why we’re “running it hot”
26:49 – Why gold isn’t truly scarce (and Bitcoin is)
29:59 – Why Millennials need Bitcoin to protect their future
33:34 – Bitcoin is shifting from risk-on to risk-off asset
38:40 – How Wall Street and ETFs are changing Bitcoin’s market structure
58:16 – The $130T+ real estate bubble no one talks about
1:05:20 – How Horizon helps unlock home equity for Bitcoin
ℹ️ EPISODE SUMMARY
Bram Kanstein and Joe Consorti unpack how fiat money distorts everything—from college costs to GDP manipulation to real estate speculation. We break down how Bitcoin flips the script as the only verifiably scarce asset left. We also dive deep into the housing market’s $130T+ speculative premium, why institutions are buying Bitcoin, and why that’s not a threat. If you still think your house or retirement fund is a “safe bet,” this episode will challenge everything.