What does it mean to build a civilization that advances forever—and what role do entrepreneurs play in that project? In this episode of The Value Creators Podcast , Hunter Hastings interviews John Deming (author) and Mike Hamel (editor) about their book Blueprint for a Spacefaring Civilization: The Science of Volition . Deming and Hamel frame markets, innovation and entrepreneurship through the lens of volitional science: a scientific approach to subjective value and long-term progress. Key insights include: Markets are non-coercive discovery engines that reveal value through voluntary exchange. Volitional science reframes entrepreneurship as an experimental, long-horizon activity that discovers meaning and utility. Institutional design matters: intellectual property, revenue-share structures, and time-horizons shape whether innovation translates into civilization-scale progress. This episode mixes economic theory, civilizational vision, and practical proposals—from licensing regimes to new corporate structures—aimed at accelerating durable progress. Resources: ➡️ Learn What They Didn’t Teach You In Business School: The Value Creators Online Business Course Purchase the book "Blueprint for a Spacefaring Civilization: The Science of Volition" Connect with Hunter Hastings on LinkedIn Subscribe to The Value Creators on Substack