In this episode, historian Rudolph “Butch” Ware joins us for a conversation about the global system slavery built — and how its legacy still shapes the modern world. He breaks down the myths we’ve been taught about abolition, the spiritual legacy of resistance, and how white supremacy was not just a byproduct of history, but an architecture that still defines our institutions. We also talk about Gaza, the erasure of truth in public life, and how protest and free speech are being crushed in the U.S. Butch is running for governor of California, so we ask him if this is the best way to make change, considering that he is operating in a political system that often rewards self-promotion and aggrandizement over fundamental reform. UNAPOLOGETIC is Hosted by Ashfaaq Carim Chapters UNAPOLOGETIC is Hosted by Ashfaaq Carim Chapters 00:00 The hidden hands behind the slave trade 03:00 The scale of the Euro-American trade 06:15 Slavery and modern capitalism 09:05 Africa’s stagnation, Europe’s rise 11:50 Early African resistance: King Afonso 14:00 Commodifying African bodies as currency 16:15 How European slavery was different 19:00 Sexual violence and trauma under slavery 22:00 Destroyed families, lost spiritual legacies 24:40 Guns, warlords, and destabilized Africa 27:15 The myth of British abolition 30:05 African Muslims fought slavery first 33:30 Gaza and the legacy of colonial brutality 36:40 White supremacy: These aren’t people 39:30 End of empire: The extinction burst 42:00 Campus repression and the imperial boomerang 45:00 Malcolm X and the betrayal of liberalism 48:00 Why Butch joined the Green Party 52:15 From mobilizing to organizing 55:00 California 2026: Breaking the duopoly 60:00 A revolutionary political strategy 65:00 Truth-telling in political theater 70:00 Student resistance and corporate campuses 74:00 A generation that’s built different 77:00 The urgency of third-party power 80:00 A final word on faith and freedom
